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09-07-2017 | 07:46 AM
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Also I am not against having a legally binding contract instead of a policy manual that management can (and regularly does) change and interpret to fit their needs.
In reference to my previous comment about paying a union, I am not suggesting that a union fixes everything (certainly not at the regional level), but there are undeniable benefits as well.
09-07-2017 | 08:52 AM
#8272
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QOL is the reason I would vote yes to a union as well.
Also I am not against having a legally binding contract instead of a policy manual that management can (and regularly does) change and interpret to fit their needs.
In reference to my previous comment about paying a union, I am not suggesting that a union fixes everything (certainly not at the regional level), but there are undeniable benefits as well.
Also I am not against having a legally binding contract instead of a policy manual that management can (and regularly does) change and interpret to fit their needs.
In reference to my previous comment about paying a union, I am not suggesting that a union fixes everything (certainly not at the regional level), but there are undeniable benefits as well.
That's not even permissible, at Republic, to train or check during those hours. Written in a LEGALLY BINDING CONTRACT!
Oh, enjoy the 4am stuff too!
09-08-2017 | 05:24 AM
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I believe the rule was subsequently changed, so as I understand it in any such election today you only need a majority of the CAST ballots, so actually it would be easier to pull off today than in 2006 (apathy doesn't count as a no vote).
09-08-2017 | 05:27 AM
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How about when they have an ot pairing with LCO on it? You're going to work aren't you? Why not MDG?
Oh but wait it's MDG OR 1.5x lco whatever is higher.
Yeah good luck with that. Our ppm is a joke and it pains you to admit it. It's ok.
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Oh but wait it's MDG OR 1.5x lco whatever is higher.
Yeah good luck with that. Our ppm is a joke and it pains you to admit it. It's ok.
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09-08-2017 | 05:35 AM
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Union regionals violate the contract all the time, and the "law" never gets involved. You are generally NOT allowed to refuse an assignment in violation of the contract, but you can grieve it after the fact. The grievance process will take many months and if you win you'll typically get one hour of pay as penalty to the company.
So naturally the company doesn't care one whit if they have to pay you an hour next April if that's the cost of forcing you to cover flying today.
09-08-2017 | 05:39 AM
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I would vote in a union the first chance I have! The PPM is a joke! A new hire was "released" for failing their final sim ride, sure it's not for everyone. But the student pleaded to have a sim during normal hours claiming they were fatigued by having to be in the sim from 22:00 to 02:00, fell on deaf ears.
That's not even permissible, at Republic, to train or check during those hours. Written in a LEGALLY BINDING CONTRACT!
Oh, enjoy the 4am stuff too!
That's not even permissible, at Republic, to train or check during those hours. Written in a LEGALLY BINDING CONTRACT!
Oh, enjoy the 4am stuff too!
Like airplanes, sims are very expensive to own/lease, so the company needs to get max utilization out of them.
Airline crews frequently end their day after midnight and start at 0400 or even worse if time zones are in play.
Don't see how anyone is entitled to pick his own sim hours. I could see if he found someone willing to trade, but whining and hoping to get somebody forced to swap your sim slot sounds like buddy-screwing to me.
09-08-2017 | 07:09 AM
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Those of us who have worked at union regionals and subsequently come to SKW know better.
Union regionals violate the contract all the time, and the "law" never gets involved. You are generally NOT allowed to refuse an assignment in violation of the contract, but you can grieve it after the fact. The grievance process will take many months and if you win you'll typically get one hour of pay as penalty to the company.
So naturally the company doesn't care one whit if they have to pay you an hour next April if that's the cost of forcing you to cover flying today.
Union regionals violate the contract all the time, and the "law" never gets involved. You are generally NOT allowed to refuse an assignment in violation of the contract, but you can grieve it after the fact. The grievance process will take many months and if you win you'll typically get one hour of pay as penalty to the company.
So naturally the company doesn't care one whit if they have to pay you an hour next April if that's the cost of forcing you to cover flying today.
So "those of us" doesn't mean everyone agrees with you.
In my experience, Skywest violates the policy manual more often. The difference is nothing can even be done at Skywest even if we wanted, whereas with a union, legal action is an option (even if the option isn't regularly exercised).
09-08-2017 | 07:23 AM
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