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09-08-2017 | 07:35 AM

#8281

RemoveB4Flight

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Originally Posted by rickair7777

Why did you leave?

Not because of a union.

09-08-2017 | 08:25 AM

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GearUpHeadDown

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We don't need a union here. The others aren't any better off and the argument could be made that they have it worse.

09-08-2017 | 09:04 AM

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We don't need a union here. The others aren't any better off and the argument could be made that they have it worse.

How could it possibly be worse to have a legally binding contract and actual real lawyers in your side?

09-08-2017 | 09:05 AM

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elmetal

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Who knows....

09-08-2017 | 09:19 AM

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rickair7777

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Originally Posted by word302

How could it possibly be worse to have a legally binding contract and actual real lawyers in your side?

Finding out that it doesn't really make much of a difference at a regional, but you're still out 2%.

I'd actually be willing to pay 2% to find out...my heartburn is people pushing it like it's some miracle cure, the regional system is rigged and alpa is in on it.

09-08-2017 | 09:20 AM

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elmetal

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Historical credit alone makes up the difference.

Notice how no union carriers have that garbage?

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09-08-2017 | 09:54 AM

#8287

domino

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GearUpHeadDown

We don't need a union here. The others aren't any better off and the argument could be made that they have it worse.

Management guy is back.

09-08-2017 | 10:02 AM

#8288

RemoveB4Flight

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rickair7777

I'd actually be willing to pay 2% to find out...my heartburn is people pushing it like it's some miracle cure, the regional system is rigged and alpa is in on it.

That's exactly where I am at.
I didn't mean to imply it was a miracle cure. There will be problems either way.
If it went to a vote, I wouldn't be shocked if we went union.

09-08-2017 | 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by elmetal

Historical credit alone makes up the difference.

Notice how no union carriers have that garbage?

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I don't get why this is an issue? The company wants us to achieve a higher block (they get paid by the hour too), so I try to accommodate them. I don't get paid until the door is shut, so there's plenty of time to do most of my job after that. Not trying to rip anybody off, that's just the way the accounting is set up.

09-08-2017 | 10:33 AM

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So when you get awarded 88 hours, really you were awarded 92 hours (at any other airline), and now you have to play catch up.

You get delayed, which is extremely common, and now you play catch up all day making only credit, and further diminishing historical credit, which had nothing to do with anything you did but you lose out on it.

How do you not see this as an issue?

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