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Old 09-13-2016 | 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by disillusioned
That's is the exact thing that helped me decide to move on. In that range and not only could I not get 75 hours, but I was constantly getting required minimum line value of 87 to 88 hours. So you either bid for high value trips (which have dropped off over the past 6 months) or low value locals which may or not be picked up. The good part about option 2 is that when you have to call in to get a day off, you don't have that much user time taken.

Had I been able to get a good schedule or drop a trip here or there, I may have stuck around just to enjoy my kids as they are growing up. As it stands now, I expect to commute back east and still figure I'll have just as many days off as a junior reserve as I did with SW after 9 years. Plus there will be some hope of it getting better vs the realization that it will never get better.
Where did you end up going?
Old 09-13-2016 | 08:42 PM
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It took me about a year and a half on property to get a Flight Ops job. After applying to a lot of positions I was met with a lot of frustration, it seemed the people they wanted to hire was already known and that they just had to interview as a formality. Don't let that get in the way just keep interviewing and eventually you'll get something.
Old 09-13-2016 | 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by torpid0
Maybe your description to get the job of CP/ACP applies to some...but not all. HG (the LAX ACP) has NONE of those characteristics you described.
This is true, HG is a great guy. Been on his jumpseat a couple times.

But MH? The mind fairly boggles...
Old 09-13-2016 | 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by airlinepilotguy
How hard is it to become apart of a Chief Pilot's Office or apart of Pilot Recruitment within the first two years of being a pilot at SkyWest? Is it possible? How long would a pilot have to be at SkyWest in order to obtain one of those opportunities?






First, you'll need to know the difference between "apart", and "a part".
Old 09-13-2016 | 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbosina
This is true, HG is a great guy. Been on his jumpseat a couple times.

But MH? The mind fairly boggles...
The difference (aside from personality types, which is indeed a MAJOR factor) lies in the difference between an ACP and a CP: the former still bid for and fly the line a couple weeks per month; the latter have no idea what it actually means to execute the policies and procedures being handed down from on high, and have no understanding or appreciation for what it's like flying the line each and every day. They are company men, and that is how they get that position.

In a former life, I was a west coast guy and flew with all parties being discussed. Most of the ACPs and Flt Ops Sups were good guys. MH? He should not be trusted by any line pilot, and frankly he should never be in either pilot seat of any aircraft without a steadfast and confident LCA willing to take the controls regardless of who is in the other seat.
Old 09-14-2016 | 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Jvw700
Where did you end up going?
Got a CJO to the big leagues and I am just waiting for a confirmed class date. In a way I am thankful that it pushed me to get my app together and attend some job fairs. Sucks because the people you work with at SW are the best.

Good news is that so many SkyWesters are getting on with the majors is that I'll still be able to work with a bunch of them there. Best of luck to all those that are looking to move on and those that have decided to call SW home. It's a difficult decision that can only be made by each individual based on what is best for them and their families.
Old 09-14-2016 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by disillusioned
Got a CJO to the big leagues and I am just waiting for a confirmed class date. In a way I am thankful that it pushed me to get my app together and attend some job fairs. Sucks because the people you work with at SW are the best.

Good news is that so many SkyWesters are getting on with the majors is that I'll still be able to work with a bunch of them there. Best of luck to all those that are looking to move on and those that have decided to call SW home. It's a difficult decision that can only be made by each individual based on what is best for them and their families.
Nice!! Congrats!!
Old 09-14-2016 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Jvw700
Nice!! Congrats!!
Envoy is hiring...I'll help you get a CJO. Let me know..I'm happy to help.
Old 09-14-2016 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by HardLemonade
Envoy is hiring...I'll help you get a CJO. Let me know..I'm happy to help.
For $1.00/hour more first year pay than Skywest? No thanks.
Is Envoy getting trip and duty rigs or do they still build 12 hour 4 day trips?
Old 09-14-2016 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by HardLemonade
Envoy is hiring...I'll help you get a CJO. Let me know..I'm happy to help.
Now that's funny.
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