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nopantsILS 11-02-2017 11:08 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2459451)
It *should* be seniority order regardless. If junior ERJ folks are sniveling because someone senior on the CRJ got "their" upgrade... don't know what to say to that.

If someone gets bypassed out of seniority order (because they need them in the right seat), then they get CA pay while keeping their FO seniority... not horrible.

It was ERJ FO's who were under the impression that their initial upgrade bid should somehow put them ahead of existing CA's or senior RJ FO's upgrading into the 175. AKA not seniority order or the bypass issue...they just had no clue.

Utah 11-02-2017 12:33 PM


Originally Posted by elmetal (Post 2459440)
I have contacts in SLC. That's all I'll say

I call BS. Perhaps the new short course for current Crj pilots has been combined with upgrade.

TimetoClimb 11-02-2017 12:46 PM


Originally Posted by ImPilot I Fly (Post 2459092)
I know its going to start getting junior. Im 3300ish and am expecting this award or the next. I am prior 121 with the time. I think you have to get closer to 3000 until you start finding the guys with 1000 time at Skywest.

I'm high 3700s with only 150hrs 121 SIC for perspective. so will upgrades drop off a cliff here in 2018?

Nevjets 11-02-2017 12:51 PM


Originally Posted by elmetal (Post 2459409)
It's here guys.



Newhire (from XJT) in newhire just got transfered to Upgrade class today.



That's right. Captain upgrade has just become less than 2 weeks.


Good for him/her. They also get the longevity credit? I hope so. In fact, I hope all ASA pilots can do this if the want. It should just be offered to them, no questions asked.

unlarge 11-02-2017 12:59 PM


Originally Posted by TimetoClimb (Post 2459508)
I'm high 3700s with only 150hrs 121 SIC for perspective. so will upgrades drop off a cliff here in 2018?

It will never drop below 1000 hrs part 121 (or 500 hrs for prior military).
Some part 135/charter 91 hours qualify, but essentially it's hard requirement because it's not in company SOP but FARs §121.436

For prior part 121 folks, it will definitely drop significantly. It already happened once when in March award dropped to 9 months,
with a current grow and a lot of senior FOs bypassing for QOL and waiting for home base, I think no later than January it will basically be direct entry CA program for qualified new hires.

TimetoClimb 11-02-2017 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by unlarge (Post 2459515)
It will never drop below 1000 hrs part 121 (or 500 hrs for prior military).
Some part 135/charter 91 hours qualify, but essentially it's hard requirement because it's not in company SOP but FARs §121.436

For prior part 121 folks, it will definitely drop significantly. It already happened once when in March award dropped to 9 months,
with a current grow and a lot of senior FOs bypassing for QOL and waiting for home base, I think no later than January it will basically be direct entry CA program for qualified new hires.

Just to be clear, I wasn't inferring they would allow FO's without 1000 hours 121 (or qualifying 135) to upgrade. By cliff I meant what point on the seniority list will effectively be able to hold CA, assuming they meet minimum qualifications. So the consensus is basically DEC in the near future...insane to think about. It'll take me and most of my classmates atleast a year more to even be qualified, I wonder what It will look like then.

amcnd 11-02-2017 02:00 PM


Originally Posted by Utah (Post 2459438)
Where can you see that? Or how do you know?

It’s true, i just confined it.. basically any NH with 1000 121 time and 2500tt will hold captain for the next 6 months i bet..

word302 11-02-2017 02:29 PM


Originally Posted by Utah (Post 2459501)
I call BS. Perhaps the new short course for current Crj pilots has been combined with upgrade.

Yeah I'm not buying it either. Plenty of people with their bid in for Hotlanta.

rickair7777 11-02-2017 02:32 PM


Originally Posted by amcnd (Post 2459555)
It’s true, i just confined it.. basically any NH with 1000 121 time and 2500tt will hold captain for the next 6 months i bet..


Six month upgrade definitely has precedent... about ten years ago on the Bro.

chitolin 11-02-2017 02:33 PM


Originally Posted by word302 (Post 2459570)
Yeah I'm not buying it either. Plenty of people with their bid in for Hotlanta.



It was already proven to be a misunderstanding. The person is just taking the “short course” that TG wrote on “insight” a couple of days ago.


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