Originally Posted by N6279P

A common myth. The Pratt and Whitney JT8D was definitely a turbofan, albeit a low bypass one.

Originally Posted by terminal

Because you can’t use pitch and power when MCAS is doing what it’s doing unless you kill the trim switches. The MCAS is operative WHILE handflying
The issue is recognition of what’s happening.
Air speed unreliable while the stick shaker is going crazy nose pitches down at 1k feet AGL?
You’re telling me that with the current training, you’d figure out what’s going on? You click off autopilot and it gets WORSE? Unless you’ve had training on the system...aside from a CBT.

Originally Posted by hindsight2020

Bingo. Forget about MCAS potato and Americans waxing poetic about foreigners not being able to TP-stall recover an airliner like they're reliving their USAF UPT glory days. The quoted above is the real issue, and what needs to be talked about more. Boeing wanted to get away with not incurring certification costs of a new type by frankensteining the 73 certificate. It is therefore poetic justice they would get bent over questions of a sub-system allowed in under the very certification-stretching they've been mining for decades in the first place. About time their cost-cutting and 737 back alley plastic surgery clinic was finally exposed.

They got Capone under the lesser tax evasion, so frankly I couldn't care less whether the foreign case studies were 100% MCAS/sensor related or not. Win's a win. This ought to effectively wash out their gains in choosing to not design the "composite 757", to include accepting the certification costs a clean sheet design would normally incur.

Originally Posted by PNWFlyer

1K AGL??? MCAS doesn’t work until the flaps are up.

Originally Posted by trip

MCAS was malfunctioning on the Lion Air jet at rotation, if it was working right we wouldn't be talking about this.

Originally Posted by PNWFlyer

Boeing wanted to tell the pilots about MCAS. The FAA said no.

Originally Posted by fireman0174

Where did you get that piece of information?

Originally Posted by PNWFlyer

Boeing wanted to tell the pilots about MCAS. The FAA said no.

Originally Posted by PNWFlyer

Now that the FAA is being investigated that will be obvious.

Originally Posted by RI830

But the FAA said there was no reason to ground the Max...
We should listen to them and Trump overstepped his executive privilege!!

I continue to see the FAA isn’t running/managing/policing this industry. The dollars from the WN/AA/DL/UA do.
The FAA allowed the MAX stay as a common type but forced WN to ground the -300 before the Max could come online.



Whoever will investigate the FAA?