737 MAX - Safe or Unsafe?
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Ethiopian Airlines Pilots Initially Followed Boeing’s Required Emergency Steps to Disable 737 MAX System
https://www.wsj.com/articles/ethiopi...em-11554263276
Ethiopian Airlines Pilots Initially Followed Boeing’s Required Emergency Steps to Disable 737 MAX System
https://www.wsj.com/articles/ethiopi...em-11554263276
"After turning off a flight-control system that was automatically pushing down the plane’s nose shortly after takeoff March 10, these people said, the crew couldn’t get the aircraft to climb and ended up turning it back on and relying on other steps before the final plunge killed all 157 people on board."
"The pilots on Ethiopian Airlines Flight 302 initially reacted to the emergency by shutting off power to electric motors driven by the automated system, these people said, but then appear to have re-engaged the system to cope with a persistent steep nose-down angle. It wasn’t immediately clear why the pilots turned the automated system back on instead of continuing to follow Boeing’s standard emergency checklist, but government and industry officials said the likely reason would have been because manual controls to raise the nose didn’t achieve the desired results.
After first cranking a manual wheel in the cockpit that controls the same movable surfaces on the plane’s tail that MCAS had affected, the pilots turned electric power back on, one of these people said. They began to use electric switches to try to raise the plane’s nose, according to these people. But the electric power also reactivated MCAS, allowing it to continue its strong downward commands, the people said."
After first cranking a manual wheel in the cockpit that controls the same movable surfaces on the plane’s tail that MCAS had affected, the pilots turned electric power back on, one of these people said. They began to use electric switches to try to raise the plane’s nose, according to these people. But the electric power also reactivated MCAS, allowing it to continue its strong downward commands, the people said."
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Ethiopian Airlines Pilots Initially Followed Boeing’s Required Emergency Steps to Disable 737 MAX System
https://www.wsj.com/articles/ethiopi...em-11554263276
Ethiopian Airlines Pilots Initially Followed Boeing’s Required Emergency Steps to Disable 737 MAX System
https://www.wsj.com/articles/ethiopi...em-11554263276
#145
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No it wasn’t. FO trimmed in the wrong direction. Person leaking this information is hoping no one notices that. They can’t keep it a secret forever.
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From: DOWNGRADE COMPLETE: Thanks Gary. Thanks SWAPA.
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It's a pretty good amount of force to move the wheel with any kind of speed, but certainly not impossible it just takes a lot longer to get it trimmed. I've done it in the sim.
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Not at 400+ knots you didn’t. At that speed it would be damn near impossible. No idea if the A/T were left on or where the thrust levers were when they crashed.
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