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Old 01-30-2020, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by flyguy81 View Post
FAA/Boeing have already said a workaround using NG sims will be allowed. With so few Max sims and so many airlines with parked planes it’s not feasible to tell some airlines “tough ****....go buy a MAX sim”.

The only difference is the display. Sim is only going to be required to train MCAS/trim runaway. You can do that in any model.
As of now, SWA intends to do the training in the Max sims.
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Old 02-02-2020, 03:32 AM
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It is my understanding that the software is significantly different in the 737 MAX. Not just the displays.

Expediting the timetable for the return of the 737 MAX and relaxing sim requirements sounds a lot like the first mistakes that were made.

If there is another accident, one can imagine the backlash that would ensue.
Have you flown both aircraft?

The MAX has slightly larger displays, a smaller gear handle, and the clock is in a different place. That’s it.

The important stuff is all the same. The software can be changed, that’s the beauty of a simulator.
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Old 02-02-2020, 08:52 AM
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Just got back from the Training Center. Plan is to have all 9 MAX simulators up and running by June. 3 MAX sims are already installed and operational in the new training center and 6 MAX sims installed in the old training center on a temporary basis until the construction is finished on the new training center expansion sometime in Q4 2020. The current (new) training center is currently full after the first 3 MAX sims were installed.
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Old 02-02-2020, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Salukidawg View Post
Just got back from the Training Center. Plan is to have all 9 MAX simulators up and running by June. 3 MAX sims are already installed and operational in the new training center and 6 MAX sims installed in the old training center on a temporary basis until the construction is finished on the new training center expansion sometime in Q4 2020. The current (new) training center is currently full after the first 3 MAX sims were installed.
Also interesting to know would be if they are increasing the amount of instructors, and which is most limiting on total training capacity, instructors or simulators.
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Old 02-02-2020, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Salukidawg View Post
Just got back from the Training Center. Plan is to have all 9 MAX simulators up and running by June. 3 MAX sims are already installed and operational in the new training center and 6 MAX sims installed in the old training center on a temporary basis until the construction is finished on the new training center expansion sometime in Q4 2020. The current (new) training center is currently full after the first 3 MAX sims were installed.
I just got back from training as well and we were told that the 3 sims from CAE wouldn’t be on property until September...
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Originally Posted by Tenacvols View Post
I just got back from training as well and we were told that the 3 sims from CAE wouldn’t be on property until September...


What?! Two completely different and disparate rumors from the training center? Say it ain't so.
If we collaborated and made a list of the training center "facts" and scored them a year later I would bet that they run somewhere around 20 percent true.
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Originally Posted by Tenacvols View Post
I just got back from training as well and we were told that the 3 sims from CAE wouldn’t be on property until September...
I don’t know. I didn’t go over to the old building. I know 3 were supposed to have shown up a few days ago. That would bring the total to 6, and the other 3 have been moved up to be in place by June. That information came from Alan I believe.
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Originally Posted by Profane Kahuna View Post
Have you flown both aircraft?

The MAX has slightly larger displays, a smaller gear handle, and the clock is in a different place. That’s it.

The important stuff is all the same. The software can be changed, that’s the beauty of a simulator.
I have never flown a 737. Just have had the joy of jump seating in them. What I was considering earlier was the difficulty and possible complications of changing the software in a NG sim to mimic a MAX. Also, would the FAA would sign off on it?

It may not be as simple as just uploading a new software package.
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There will be sim training. Not every operator owns a Max sim, in fact only a very few do. You do the math. They aren't going to recertify the airplane without a viable return to service plan.
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For the application, when it asks about failures: Have you EVER failed a Flight Check-ride, Proficiency Check, Flight Evaluation, or Upgrade attempt (Aircraft or Simulator, Oral or Practical)?

For military, does this include check rides for graduate level tactical qualifications like FAC(A), SFTI, etc.?
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