Uh oh. Where is this propaganda coming from?

 

Add me in as a member of the, ‘Never gonna forget’ 1221 club.
With the latest refusal to stem the flow of erroneous write ups… the die is cast
Past is not necessarily prologue

 

Smooth, honest question:
Do you think it was the Capitol Hill side of things or the 10% concession demands that drove my WARN notice?
either explanation severely disappointing to me.
I’ve heard the political aspect and the 10% aspect. I’ve just never heard/read evidence pointing to one or the other

 

Junior captain hired at the tail end of the lost decade. Have always voted no. Most assuredly will vote no again whenever this current negotiation produces anything. Will vote no on TA2 also I'm sure, and likely would vote no on TA3 and 4 if we ever got there. Why? Because it won't even be up to "industry standard." We have some very good things here such as a flexible schedule and good vacation pulls. EVERYTHING else is sub-par.
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The "accomodations" that have been talked about as a means of turning people like me into yes voters is a joke. From my perspective, on Oct 4th I was told I'd likely be out of work within a few weeks/months for not bowing down to take the forced jab. I'll stop from sermonizing all the myriad reasons why. Either way, all those easy accomodations didn't come from the goodness of anyone's heart in Dallas. And it's still unsettled territory. They threatened to fire me and never really backed down. We've merely come to a temporary stalemate. I'll NEVER forget the position that put me (and thousands of like-minded people) in.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. This place has hired thousands of Pollyannas that would vote yes to anything. Has the mindset flipped enough with the 1221, etc? I guess we'll see. But even SNAPA 2.0 hasn't done a single thing to get this process rolling! Hint - you have to file for mediation before the clock really starts.

Look at all the posters here that gave me grief because I think new hire pay is something the company needs so badly that we could use it as leverage! I'm not hopeful. We're doomed. Even in the best negotiating environment we'll likely ever see.

In all honesty, if I was a car salesman, I'd be smiling from ear to ear if a southwestern trailways jockey came through the door.

 

Oh I was talking with another SWA buddy and getting their perspective on things. Their take was many pilots are ****ed at the company over the 1221 but don’t hold the pilot group to any kind of accountability for giving a middle finger to any kind of concession in the hopes of avoiding WARNs. He said loss of culture is as much a “pilot group thing” as it is a company thing - ie. if we perpetuate the ME at all costs, screw everyone else mentality then we’ll get what we get.

 

This should go well.

 

oh your buddy works in management ?

 

I hope you’re wrong. And I hope I’m wrong. Sounds like we’ve both been here about the same amount of time so we’ve witnessed the pilot group in action for well over a decade. And the conclusion you’ve come to is basically the same conclusion I’ve come to. I think there’s a chance we pull it out - I wouldn’t use the word “doomed” - but I think the chance is very, very small.

I hope most people feel the same way you do about the accommodations but I’m already hearing talk that makes me doubt that.

And about mediation? You’re 100% correct. The clock hasn’t even started ticking yet.

Those of us who want a chance at an industry-leading contract need to let their fellow pilots and especially SWAPA know how they feel.

 

He’s not management, and I don’t agree with his take. But I also don’t agree with my other buddy that’s one of the 1221 who is so disenfranchised that the company betrayed his trust and they’re incapable of doing anything to regain it. Sorry to disappoint with a lack of drama Zap.

 

It's all good! I much rather there be less manufactured drama as opposed to more. Glad it worked out.