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#211
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I do think it's worth looking into and possibly structuring it differently. With the current setup, I've been getting excess every year because I pick up extra. I've voted every year to put it all in the PS account because it assures me that I will hit 415c limits. That's very important to me.
Personally, I'd like the option of rolling all of previous year's PS payout into the current year's 401k, so I don't get hit with 22% tax and actually max out my 401k contribution for the year with previous year's PS. It's doable as is by changing our individual contributions for a month or two, but that's way clunky. By being able to roll it all into the current year 401k, we'd dodge the 22% tax hit without the Rabbi Trusts being the only way to avoid that tax hit.
#212
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Joined APC: Apr 2014
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I know what you're trying to say. I'm just poking fun at how your post came across...
I do think it's worth looking into and possibly structuring it differently. With the current setup, I've been getting excess every year because I pick up extra. I've voted every year to put it all in the PS account because it assures me that I will hit 415c limits. That's very important to me.
Personally, I'd like the option of rolling all of previous year's PS payout into the current year's 401k, so I don't get hit with 22% tax and actually max out my 401k contribution for the year with previous year's PS. It's doable as is by changing our individual contributions for a month or two, but that's way clunky. By being able to roll it all into the current year 401k, we'd dodge the 22% tax hit without the Rabbi Trusts being the only way to avoid that tax hit.
I do think it's worth looking into and possibly structuring it differently. With the current setup, I've been getting excess every year because I pick up extra. I've voted every year to put it all in the PS account because it assures me that I will hit 415c limits. That's very important to me.
Personally, I'd like the option of rolling all of previous year's PS payout into the current year's 401k, so I don't get hit with 22% tax and actually max out my 401k contribution for the year with previous year's PS. It's doable as is by changing our individual contributions for a month or two, but that's way clunky. By being able to roll it all into the current year 401k, we'd dodge the 22% tax hit without the Rabbi Trusts being the only way to avoid that tax hit.
I pick up and get spillover PS too as a junior-ish FO...there are several junior guys to me that have expressed their preference for more individual control over the money. It can be an individual decision if we push the company to change the structure of the plan, and that was all I was trying to say...selfish sounding or not. Sounds like we're on the same page.
Last edited by Smooth at FL450; 05-13-2021 at 04:24 AM.
#213
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Joined APC: May 2021
Posts: 12
If you guys go to Mesa right now you could be in the left in a year flat!!!! Talk about a great opportunity!! Who wants to fly 4 leggers anyway. I know what you are thinkin....only 42$ hourly but think of all the extra money you will make taxing 4x slower. The training is tough but I think you guys can do it
#214
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Joined APC: Apr 2014
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If you guys go to Mesa right now you could be in the left in a year flat!!!! Talk about a great opportunity!! Who wants to fly 4 leggers anyway. I know what you are thinkin....only 42$ hourly but think of all the extra money you will make taxing 4x slower. The training is tough but I think you guys can do it
#217
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Joined APC: Aug 2015
Posts: 631
Keep in mind that the 401k was 9.3 percent and only as a match before the last contract. So while you're ****ing and moaning about not getting your profit sharing as hooker and blow money, it doesn't take much effort now to top out and get it all back as cash anyway. Until the last contract, that was not even a player for the vast majority of FOs.
#219
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Joined APC: Oct 2019
Posts: 249
I asked the chief pilot. They said possibly they will have them all back by the end of the year. There most likely will be some classes and upgrades 1st to 2nd quarter next year. While nothing earth shattering it’s still better then where we were.
#220
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Joined APC: Aug 2014
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Posts: 161
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