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Old 08-13-2021 | 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by saab2000
That sucks. Sorry for your loss. I agree it is disheartening to see folks, and some in these forums treat this as if it’s barely real and the efforts of those to end it or treat it are misguided or that leading voices of public health are frauds and maybe criminals.

To your point about having lost three fellow crew members, where did you get this info? The company doesn’t seem to indicate any numbers. Not looking for a loss of privacy for the victims but it would be useful to have some de-identified data as a reference point and to help illustrate how serious it is for some people. Most survive but some don’t and it’s not always the most obvious ones. My brother lost a co-worker who had no known co-morbidities.

You're right. It's a big secret here. Frustrating! Maybe if they would come clean there would be more people willing to get vaccinated or at least be less adversarial about masks, close contacts etc.

The FA was in the news. (I have a saved Google news search for the company). Heard about One of the pilots on the contract 2020 page. The other from a HOU CP update.


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Old 08-13-2021 | 09:35 AM
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Sorry for your loss Zap. Your friend was my age, and I was a regional guy as well. Seems like not long ago we were all bulletproof.
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Old 08-13-2021 | 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by at6d
Sorry for your loss Zap. Your friend was my age, and I was a regional guy as well. Seems like not long ago we were all bulletproof.

Thank you.

You would think as much as we drank back then our bodies would be inhospitable to microbial life!


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Old 08-13-2021 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Black Coffee
Explain to us how flight attendants abuse sick time on their points system?
thinking about it that way I dont think they abuse it if they have that ability to use it. I guess I was using the words of the company who say FAs and pilots abuse their sick time.
The company does issue emergency sick call policies when they see a bunch go out at the same time ie the end of a quarter when the points expire.
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Old 08-13-2021 | 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan
Maybe you should go volunteer at your local hospital before so being so cavalier about a disease that just this month has taken at least two pilots and a 36 year old flight attendant from among our ranks.

Forgive my lack of a sense of humor, we just got back from a funeral for a guy I've known since I worked for the commuters in the 90s. A 47 year old Delta 767 FO who passed away from Covid.


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I’m sorry for your loss but Ill post how I please thank you. We have all had losses from this screwed up situation.
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Old 08-14-2021 | 09:36 AM
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Apologies for the continued de-railing of this thread, but yes, Covid has been a horrible mess, no doubt, not just in lives lost but also lives destroyed or lost as a result of it. My condolences to all who have lost loved ones.

that said, the bungling and flip flopping continues to be stunning and people are losing hope. To say that Americans have lost what little trust was left in government agencies, politics (LOL), and media would be an understatement (thank God I don’t live in Australia...).

The CDC doesn’t track the number of deaths associated with depression (suicide), missed checkups, hospital visits and critical procedures, postponed to the detriment (death) of countless people. People locked in their homes, elderly left to die alone at home and in hospitals, family units falling apart, business failing (selectively, while others profited), lockdowns, schools closed. The potential effect of all of this on our children will be felt for decades to come.

Yes, it’s been bad. My extended family has suffered the worst consequences, some from the virus, others from the byproduct of poorly thought out policies/mixed messaging. I wonder if history will tell us the cure was worse than the disease.

The CDC, NIH, FDA stumbled out of the gate; but the initial reaction, while arguably forgivable as we didn’t know what we were dealing with, what followed (CYA) was not. The myopic focus on containing a virus at all cost (except the border) at the expense of everything else is something I hope we can learn from. Going into year 3, we don’t appear to be improving and God help us if this is the plan for every other virus that comes our way.

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Old 08-14-2021 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by tyler durden
Apologies for the continued de-railing of this thread, but yes, Covid has been a horrible mess, no doubt, not just in lives lost but also lives destroyed or lost as a result of it. My condolences to all who have lost loved ones.

that said, the bungling and flip flopping continues to be stunning and people are losing hope. To say that Americans have lost what little trust was left in government agencies, politics (LOL), and media would be an understatement (thank God I don’t live in Australia...).

The CDC doesn’t track the number of deaths associated with depression (suicide), missed checkups, hospital visits and critical procedures, postponed to the detriment (death) of countless people. People locked in their homes, elderly left to die alone at home and in hospitals, family units falling apart, business failing (selectively, while others profited), lockdowns, schools closed. The potential effect of all of this on our children will be felt for decades to come.

Yes, it’s been bad. My extended family has suffered the worst consequences, some from the virus, others from the byproduct of poorly thought out policies/mixed messaging. I wonder if history will tell us the cure was worse than the disease.

The CDC, NIH, FDA stumbled out of the gate; but the initial reaction, while arguably forgivable as we didn’t know what we were dealing with, what followed (CYA) was not. The myopic focus on containing a virus at all cost (except the border) at the expense of everything else is something I hope we can learn from. Going into year 3, we don’t appear to be improving and God help us if this is the plan for every other virus that comes our way.

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I am glad you got that off your chest. This pandemic thing is such a simple fix, even a sixth grader could do it.
Drink some bleach, keep those schools open and life is good.
If it was that simple we wouldn't have all countries around the world struggling to get a grip on it.

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Old 08-14-2021 | 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Typhoondiver
Back to upgrade times please.
If we hire 120 a month and upgrade 60 per month starting December, we will see 2016 hires awarded upgrade for January 2023, for the undesirable December class.

Zap will have long bypassed by then.
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Old 08-14-2021 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Typhoondiver
I am glad you got that off your chest. This pandemic thing is such a simple fix, even a sixth grader could do it.
Drink some bleach, keep those schools open and life is good.
If it was that simple we wouldn't have all countries around the world struggling to get a grip on it.

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sarcasm much?

“All the countries“?? Sweden has managed to get through this without arresting citizens, closing schools, forcing ruinous lock downs and destroying their economy. A socialist country that respects the freedoms of its citizens. Go figure. As of today, their weekly average is running a whopping zero deaths per day.

Entering year 3, still paying people to stay home (with 8 million jobs unfilled), unlawful rent moratoriums (thanks CDC) , Rising inflation, staggering $30 trillion in debt, an open border with 1.3 million coming across with a 10% infection rate, closing schools again. Exactly what have all these draconian measures achieved? Covid still rampant. What next, the Australian solution? using the military to lock citizens in their homes?

Perhaps after you’ve had a chance to calm down and turn off MSNBC, you might see through your anger and realize the government isn’t always the answer. A sixth grader would’ve certainly done a better job

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Old 08-14-2021 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by tyler durden
sarcasm much?

“All the countries“?? Sweden has managed to get through this without arresting citizens, closing schools, forcing ruinous lock downs and destroying their economy. A socialist country that respects the freedoms of its citizens. Go figure. As of today, their weekly average is running a whopping zero deaths per day.

Entering year 3, still paying people to stay home (with 8 million jobs unfilled), unlawful rent moratoriums (thanks CDC) , Rising inflation, staggering $30 trillion in debt, an open border with 1.3 million coming across with a 10% infection rate, closing schools again. Exactly what have all these draconian measures achieved? Covid still rampant. What next, the Australian solution? using the military to lock citizens in their homes?

Perhaps after you’ve had a chance to calm down and turn off MSNBC, you might see through your anger and realize the government isn’t always the answer. A sixth grader would’ve certainly done a better job
You are right. You won
I am not for politics on here. Just gave a different opinion to your Monday morning quarterback all easy idea

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