Former SWA Pilot Expected to Face Prosecution
09-19-2021 | 02:27 PM
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09-19-2021 | 04:31 PM
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Kind of reminds me of the Boeing/Darleen Drunyun fiasco. But in that one, nobody died.
09-19-2021 | 07:04 PM
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Come on. Let’s not pretend that there’s not at least some smoke here. After misleading/obfuscating the facts about MCAS to the FAA in order to not require airlines to provide additional Max training to their pilots, he gets hired by the one airline that stands the most to benefit from there being no training. Then when he gets hired, SWA rewards him by making him a NOC Chief Pilot (as an FO).
Kind of reminds me of the Boeing/Darleen Drunyun fiasco. But in that one, nobody died.
Kind of reminds me of the Boeing/Darleen Drunyun fiasco. But in that one, nobody died.
09-19-2021 | 10:07 PM
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Don't think he was a NOC CP. He did work under the Dallas CPO and probably worked as an ACP of sorts...perhaps you've got more inside baseball knowledge than I, but his board specifically said DAL CP. Is that the same as NOC CP? He also hardly flew, never had any type of office pulls on his board, and when he did fly it was frequently up to SEA/PAE/BFI
He was a project pilot making 115 TFP at his current payrate and longevity. He could not hold a captain seat and was not qualified to be a NOC chief. He did not fly the line. His Boeing and FAA connections undoubtedly helped him get hired, why wouldn't they?
He wisely took the VSP, I am sure under the advice of management and legal.
I don't know the guy, but you can bet the feds and Boeing were looking for a convenient scapegoat. Looks like they found one. It's perfect. There's damning texts, he isn't rich or powerful, and he wasn't high up enough at Boeing to imply some sort of fault may lie with upper management.
09-20-2021 | 05:50 AM
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He was a project pilot making 115 TFP at his current payrate and longevity. He could not hold a captain seat and was not qualified to be a NOC chief. He did not fly the line. His Boeing and FAA connections undoubtedly helped him get hired, why wouldn't they?
He wisely took the VSP, I am sure under the advice of management and legal.
I don't know the guy, but you can bet the feds and Boeing were looking for a convenient scapegoat. Looks like they found one. It's perfect. There's damning texts, he isn't rich or powerful, and he wasn't high up enough at Boeing to imply some sort of fault may lie with upper management.
He wisely took the VSP, I am sure under the advice of management and legal.
I don't know the guy, but you can bet the feds and Boeing were looking for a convenient scapegoat. Looks like they found one. It's perfect. There's damning texts, he isn't rich or powerful, and he wasn't high up enough at Boeing to imply some sort of fault may lie with upper management.
09-20-2021 | 03:30 PM
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From: Aircraft & Seat: old & hard
https://www.seattletimes.com/busines...t-report-says/
“That agreement with Boeing, while clearly laying out a case for charges against Forkner, was criticized for the way it explicitly exonerates Boeing’s leadership. The case was brought by the then U.S. Attorney in the northern district of Texas, Erin Nealy Cox.
Cox left the Department of Justice after the agreement and in June joined Kirkland & Ellis, Boeing’s lead corporate criminal defense law firm. On Kirkland’s website, she was welcomed to the firm as a partner by Mark Filip, who had signed the Deferred Prosecution Agreement on behalf of Boeing.”
WTF, I really think Forkner deserves time, but holy corruption!!!
“That agreement with Boeing, while clearly laying out a case for charges against Forkner, was criticized for the way it explicitly exonerates Boeing’s leadership. The case was brought by the then U.S. Attorney in the northern district of Texas, Erin Nealy Cox.
Cox left the Department of Justice after the agreement and in June joined Kirkland & Ellis, Boeing’s lead corporate criminal defense law firm. On Kirkland’s website, she was welcomed to the firm as a partner by Mark Filip, who had signed the Deferred Prosecution Agreement on behalf of Boeing.”
WTF, I really think Forkner deserves time, but holy corruption!!!
09-20-2021 | 06:00 PM
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I know, I know... expecting pilots to be able to do that pilot ****** is racist.
Wanna hang someone, start much higher than Forkner.
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