JeStar

Hello, I decided to make this post here because there isnt a "new hire" or "training" etc. thread.

I have 2 recent (~1.5 years ago) ATP initial type-ride 121 failures on my record at PSA Airlines, which I disclosed on the application. Passed everything there except for LOE, twice. I went on to another regional and was able to become successful there, passing recurrent, IOE, etc. And have LOR from my APD examiner for my initial at my new regional, and two from Line check pilots who flew with me, attesting to my flying.

SW invited me to interview. I am wondering if they will seriously put me into consideration on becoming a pilot here, even though I fully disclosed these recent back-to-back 121 failures. I plan to make SW my final airline as I do not like to hop around too much and know its at least leagues better than my regional.

Worst comes to worst, I have a flow to United in 2.5 years, but if SW is interviewing me and takes me into consideration right this moment, I will definitely leave my regional, go to SW, and stay there.

I know somoene else in my situation and they ended up at JetBlue, but their 2 failures at PSA was about 3 years ago. I know another person with 2 failures as well at PSA and they are at Atlas. I believe theirs was also 3 years ago.

Thanks for the advice, and if anyone has interview tips, i'd appreciate it.

Cyio

I would never pass up the interview, if for nothing else practice and experience. If they offer you something, you have that decision to make. Honestly I would be surprised if they hired you given how recent they were, but I am honestly surprised they invited you for the same reasons. I would say show up, put your best face forward and give it a go. Explain what you did wrong and why you failed, but be ready to also explain what you learned and how you are going to apply that to your future career.

Best of luck, show up for sure.

flensr

And it'll be on the recorded line when people get bumped from their commute and remind the scheduler "Mr. Jordan said it was ok to take a later flight".

RJSAviator76

Own your failures. Don't blame anyone else for them. Own your recovery and own your successes. It's your story. Tell it from the perspective of your own personal development. You do that, you'll be OK.

DownAndDirty

We are hiring anyone with a pulse and maybe some without. I can assure you a few checkride failures is not enough for our HR team to pass you up.

We have the commuter clause for a reason. I hope all of you are not afraid to use it. Make it scheduling's problem.

Crockrocket95

I can assure you the hiring team is still selective. Its more like 40-50 percent get an CJO. The GO would like to see 90, but luckily we still have humans interviewing people...

Cyio

Agreed, I am not sure why people keep spreading the rumor that we are hiring everything that walks in the door.

mulcher

Because recently a new hire needed 89hrs of IOE and either quit or was fired. CKA buddies say we are scraping the bottom of the barrel. Do we still get great new hires? Yes, but we are also getting crap ones. On another note we didn’t hire a guy from AA, lives in DAL, that really wants to be here. Several great recommendations and they told him TBNT for the second time. Maybe he doesn’t fit the new narrative.

usernamehere

because a few years ago you needed 5000+ hours, a degree, 1000 + turbine pic, and likely some icing on the cake like being a checkairman or a 737 type.

Now you need 1500 hours and an atp. And they prefer you have 500 turbine.

Cyio

So what, us and every other airline out there. Stop making it out like this is a WN problem.