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11-21-2023 | 02:15 PM
#101
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what you're suggesting is a job action that can get the union sued and we lose all leverage.
Everyone is doing what the union asks and goes about their regular personal work habits. If some doesnt work extra that great but telling someone they shouldn't is not ok, especially in negotiations.
11-21-2023 | 02:31 PM
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is this your first negotiations?
what you're suggesting is a job action that can get the union sued and we lose all leverage.
Everyone is doing what the union asks and goes about their regular personal work habits. If some doesnt work extra that great but telling someone they shouldn't is not ok, especially in negotiations.
what you're suggesting is a job action that can get the union sued and we lose all leverage.
Everyone is doing what the union asks and goes about their regular personal work habits. If some doesnt work extra that great but telling someone they shouldn't is not ok, especially in negotiations.
Right or wrong, it is what it is... if we stopped picking up OT, especially given our history over the years, the lawsuit against SWAPA would be a slamdunk just on case law.
11-21-2023 | 03:33 PM
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Exactly. Not only that, but it's in this pilot group's DNA to be the polar opposite to the good ol' ALPA socialists collecting min guarantee and doing everything they can to get out of work while getting paid more...
Right or wrong, it is what it is... if we stopped picking up OT, especially given our history over the years, the lawsuit against SWAPA would be a slamdunk just on case law.
Right or wrong, it is what it is... if we stopped picking up OT, especially given our history over the years, the lawsuit against SWAPA would be a slamdunk just on case law.
11-21-2023 | 03:33 PM
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Exactly. Not only that, but it's in this pilot group's DNA to be the polar opposite to the good ol' ALPA socialists collecting min guarantee and doing everything they can to get out of work while getting paid more...
Right or wrong, it is what it is... if we stopped picking up OT, especially given our history over the years, the lawsuit against SWAPA would be a slamdunk just on case law.
Right or wrong, it is what it is... if we stopped picking up OT, especially given our history over the years, the lawsuit against SWAPA would be a slamdunk just on case law.
11-21-2023 | 04:32 PM
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11-21-2023 | 04:43 PM
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Yep... ALPA socialists... or maybe communists would be more appropriate. Basically, a salaried job with min guarantee, no ability to make more.... ever... because contractually, should you somehow credit more than guarantee, you would never see it because any excess would go to ALPA bank - not you.
11-21-2023 | 04:44 PM
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11-21-2023 | 04:45 PM
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It's the items in a TA that aren't necessarily worthy by themselves to warrant either passing or tanking a TA. The analogy is that you'll send a steak meal back because you don't like how the steak seasoning looks, and you're throwing a fit before the steak is even presented to you.
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