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Old 11-19-2023 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
I'm sorry Mr. Kahuna, but if you think disagreeing with your opinion is the same as stifling it, then I don't know how you can reasonably expect anyone to take you seriously.

Nope that's not what you do and framing it that way represents either a lie or a severe delusional issue with yourself.... which is it?


Every time someone voices displeasure with something the union did and wishes we had achieved something better, you come on here and call them crazy or stupid or tell them to settle down or wait for the language or some other attempt to stifle them.


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...Damn dude… so now we need to talk about what a concession is now?! What exactly are we giving up again to call this a concession? And what about any offsets and benefits? ..
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...Yaaaaawn.... we're still on this being a concession?..
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..For all the squawking about co-terminals being a concession, notice not one of our concession-shouting genius brethren...
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..Go re-read what I wrote, my negative nancy friend....
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..Do y'all negative nancies need your no voting bell before an agreement is even made?...

It's pathetic when a union member brings up a concern, and a fellow union member attempts to stifle them.

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Old 11-19-2023 | 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Profane Kahuna
Nope that's not what you do and framing it that way represents either a lie or a severe delusional issue with yourself.... which is it?


Every time someone voices displeasure with something the union did and wishes we had achieved something better, you come on here and call them crazy or stupid or tell them to settle down or wait for the language or some other attempt to stifle them.

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You should wait for the language. I don’t know how anyone can reasonably say they’re a yes or no right now considering nobody has seen the finished TA…or complete language on any AIP’d section.

You may not like concepts that are agreed to, but saying you’re a yes or no without actually reading it, and taking the time to get educated on how it will affect you for the next 8-10 years is doing a disservice to not only yourself but to the people busting their butts trying to improve your QOL.

I’m undecided until I’ve had time to attend road shows, listen to podcasts, watch videos and have read it over multiple times. You do you though.
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Old 11-19-2023 | 04:20 PM
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Mr. Profane... You should be careful using words you don't know or understand.

You should look up the words ridicule or mock. I think those are the words you're looking for.
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Old 11-19-2023 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by flyguy81
You should wait for the language. I don’t know how anyone can reasonably say they’re a yes or no right now considering nobody has seen the finished TA…or complete language on any AIP’d section.

You may not like concepts that are agreed to, but saying you’re a yes or no without actually reading it, and taking the time to get educated on how it will affect you for the next 8-10 years is doing a disservice to not only yourself but to the people busting their butts trying to improve your QOL.

I’m undecided until I’ve had time to attend road shows, listen to podcasts, watch videos and have read it over multiple times. You do you though.
Why do guys continue to repeat this? 🤷🏻‍♂️ There is already information out… we all have different redlines. If your red line has already been crossed, it’s already a no vote. EASY! Maybe somethings are non-negotiable for folks. Other people are more neutral, middle of the road types and want to weigh pros and cons from the complete TA. It’s pretty easy for me to understand both sides. Not difficult at all.
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Old 11-19-2023 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Liberty
Why do guys continue to repeat this? 🤷🏻‍♂️ There is already information out… we all have different redlines. If your red line has already been crossed, it’s already a no vote. EASY! Maybe somethings are non-negotiable for folks. Other people are more neutral, middle of the road types and want to weigh pros and cons from the complete TA. It’s pretty easy for me to understand both sides. Not difficult at all.
We have bullet points. That’s all. And nothing that’s been posted crossed my line in the sand. IDGAF about co-terminals. I care deeply about fixing LTD. They’ve said benefits is industry leading but I’ve not seen anything about the proposed package, or read that section, or seen any industry comparisons to prove that. So…I’m undecided until swayed one way or the other.
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Old 11-19-2023 | 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
Mr. Profane... You should be careful using words you don't know or understand.

You should look up the words ridicule or mock. I think those are the words you're looking for.

There you go again, so predictable.


Union member expresses a concern...... RJS shows up to stifle, ridicule, or mock.


Management LUVs pilots who attack other union members and their concerns against the company proposal, especially during section 6.


At this point, leaning more towards delusions of superiority / hubris. Like a young version of Tom D maybe.



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Old 11-19-2023 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Profane Kahuna
There you go again, so predictable.


Union member expresses a concern...... RJS shows up to stifle, ridicule, or mock.


Management LUVs pilots who attack other union members and their concerns against the company proposal, especially during section 6.


At this point, leaning more towards delusions of superiority / hubris. Like a young version of Tom D maybe.



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Progress.... but you're still using the word that makes you look stupid. Now try again.... Here, let me help you: "Union member expresses a concern...... RJS shows up to stifle, ridicule, or mock."

Hint... a non-moderator cannot stifle you on a public forum. In fact, please tell us again how you're voting no, how we're taking concessions, and how you're the proud profession defender looking out for all of us. Don't let me stop you from spreading your gospel.
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Old 11-19-2023 | 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by flyguy81
…my line in the sand…. IDGAF …. I care deeply about …I’ve not seen ….So…I’m undecided .
Very self-based observations and opinions for your own good. No problem. Why can’t you understand those that have come to a different conclusion for their own good? I don’t understand the difficulty.
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Old 11-19-2023 | 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Profane Kahuna
Union member expresses a concern...... RJS shows up to stifle, ridicule, or mock.
Is calling anyone who disagrees with you or wants to wait to read a TA or attend a roadshow a “yessie” not stifling, ridiculing, or mocking?

Come on, be real. You’re just on the receiving end of the ridicule for a change.
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Old 11-19-2023 | 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by flyguy81
You should…
…You may not ….
…you’re a yes or no without…
….it will affect you
…disservice to not only yourself
…You do you though.
It just seems like an individual, self focused guy has a lot to say about what others do… and laughingly conclude with “you do you”.
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