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12-20-2023 | 06:22 PM
#112
More Cowbell!!!
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 386
Likes: 6
From: Spreading the LUV from the "Write" seat!!!
It would kill you to be happy wouldn't it? Your expectations so high that you'd never agree to anything. We got a 50% raise, great work rule additions on top of what we have, LTD, hotel language, more retirement.. all good things. We are highest paid NB in the world. What more do you want?
I know it’s cool to be a “hard no”.. but let’s try to at least be objective here
I know it’s cool to be a “hard no”.. but let’s try to at least be objective here
12-20-2023 | 06:37 PM
#116
Gets Weekend Reserve
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 4,233
Likes: 197
From: B737CA
My first impressions... so far, the pay rates seem to have fallen a tad short for the captains through '26. I'm far more interested in dissecting LCO, new work rules, learn the new games to be played because that's where the money is.
Disability? They weren't kidding when they said that it'll be no-BS industry-leading. It is... hands down. That was my #1 ask in this contract and they exceeded my expectations. Retirement, I also think it's industry-leading with MBCBP company contributions.
Haven't quite delved too deeply into work rules yet. 417 pages of stuff to go through; YouTube videos and podcasts.... lots of education and roadshows. Also waiting to see the SWAPA retro calculator as well.
Disability? They weren't kidding when they said that it'll be no-BS industry-leading. It is... hands down. That was my #1 ask in this contract and they exceeded my expectations. Retirement, I also think it's industry-leading with MBCBP company contributions.
Haven't quite delved too deeply into work rules yet. 417 pages of stuff to go through; YouTube videos and podcasts.... lots of education and roadshows. Also waiting to see the SWAPA retro calculator as well.
12-20-2023 | 07:38 PM
#119
New Hire
Joined: Aug 2022
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Willing to die on a hill for 10 TFP, everyone seems obsessed with what we get at min guarantee so let's do some napkin math here. 10 TFP x 89 trips (31 Day Month)=$890. 364/hr x 73 (29 Day Month)=$26,572 vs. UAL 359/hr x 70 (any month)=$25,130 or Delta 359/hr x 65 (any month)=$23,335. So AT MINIMUM GUARANTEE which is everyone's benchmark here, the difference in monthly wages at top pay 737-9 Captain, SWA makes 1442 more per month than United and 3237 more than at Delta and we're out here worried about 890 bucks. Wait, wait, wait, I know what you're gonna say now "they work way more than those guarantees", and so does the average Southwest pilot.
12-20-2023 | 07:46 PM
#120
Line Holder
Joined: Mar 2017
Posts: 460
Likes: 2
When did the FAA drop the requirement to read and understand english?
Stupidity in full effect here and on FB
Retirement and Disabilty look to be big wins.
Pay? Im seeing things that look to be big boosters to monthly credit.
Going to have to learn a whole new game.
Stupidity in full effect here and on FB
Retirement and Disabilty look to be big wins.
Pay? Im seeing things that look to be big boosters to monthly credit.
Going to have to learn a whole new game.
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