2024 Hiring
02-20-2024 | 03:38 PM
#21
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Went on myseniority.com. Since the end of 2019 we have grown in terms of pilots about 2.8% per year. We are going nowhere fast. Neither are you if you come.
02-20-2024 | 08:13 PM
#22
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Went on myseniority.com. Since the end of 2019 we have grown in terms of pilots about 2.8% per year. We are going nowhere fast. Neither are you if you come.
02-20-2024 | 08:25 PM
#23
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Went on myseniority.com. Since the end of 2019 we have grown in terms of pilots about 2.8% per year. We are going nowhere fast. Neither are you if you come.
02-20-2024 | 11:43 PM
#24
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Yeah, definitely a selective range of years, considering we lost around 7% one year while not hiring at all.
02-21-2024 | 06:37 AM
#25
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Went on myseniority.com. Since the end of 2019 we have grown in terms of pilots about 2.8% per year. We are going nowhere fast. Neither are you if you come.
That being said, growth here does depend largely on hiring. Managements stated goals are to grow the airline, but there are issues with that.
02-21-2024 | 08:10 AM
#26
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Math is absolute. In December 2019 we had 10,000 pilots+/-. TODAY we have officially 11,351 pilots. A net gain of 1,351 pilots. That is the ABSOLUTE delta (change). Doesn't matter how you "feel" about moving up or how many pilots took various seperation offers. To calculate the percent change, divide the new number by the old number. This yields a positive change of 13.51%. Now divide 13.51% by the time change (Approx. 4 yrs.) equals 3.37%. The 2.8% is taking into account VSP and "paper bidders". Regardless, the growth is pitiful.
02-21-2024 | 09:05 AM
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Math is absolute. In December 2019 we had 10,000 pilots+/-. TODAY we have officially 11,351 pilots. A net gain of 1,351 pilots. That is the ABSOLUTE delta (change). Doesn't matter how you "feel" about moving up or how many pilots took various seperation offers. To calculate the percent change, divide the new number by the old number. This yields a positive change of 13.51%. Now divide 13.51% by the time change (Approx. 4 yrs.) equals 3.37%. The 2.8% is taking into account VSP and "paper bidders". Regardless, the growth is pitiful.
02-21-2024 | 09:14 AM
#28
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Math is absolute. In December 2019 we had 10,000 pilots+/-. TODAY we have officially 11,351 pilots. A net gain of 1,351 pilots. That is the ABSOLUTE delta (change). Doesn't matter how you "feel" about moving up or how many pilots took various seperation offers. To calculate the percent change, divide the new number by the old number. This yields a positive change of 13.51%. Now divide 13.51% by the time change (Approx. 4 yrs.) equals 3.37%. The 2.8% is taking into account VSP and "paper bidders". Regardless, the growth is pitiful.
02-21-2024 | 10:31 AM
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Not to mention we went from 10,000 pilots in March of 2020, down to nearly 9,000 pilots in 2021, to now 11,659. If you were one of the first hired in late 2021 you’d be about 73.5% system wide in just over two years. It’s hard to look at the Covid years and consider that the normal rate of growth. No matter where you get hired now, it’s going to be behind thousands of pilots in their mid twenties going into a slowing hiring environment.
02-21-2024 | 11:03 AM
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Math is absolute. In December 2019 we had 10,000 pilots+/-. TODAY we have officially 11,351 pilots. A net gain of 1,351 pilots. That is the ABSOLUTE delta (change). Doesn't matter how you "feel" about moving up or how many pilots took various seperation offers. To calculate the percent change, divide the new number by the old number. This yields a positive change of 13.51%. Now divide 13.51% by the time change (Approx. 4 yrs.) equals 3.37%. The 2.8% is taking into account VSP and "paper bidders". Regardless, the growth is pitiful.
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