AT/SWA SLI Question
07-17-2011, 01:50 AM
#72
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Arm Wrestle you for it!!!
Originally Posted by LuvJockey
Now is the time for all parties other than Delta pilots to exercise restraint and class. Welcome to "The Cult of Herb."
As seen in "Over the Top"
The "Cult of Herb" is awesome!!!
Note: for guys who will take this out of context; this is a joke.
As for the Delta guys they may enjoy throwing some fuel on the fire but at least they have been making it all a bit more light-hearted
Good Luck to us all and lets move forward.
07-17-2011, 07:43 AM
#74
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Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER
My source is my Merger Committee and direct communication with my reps. Is that sufficient for you?
Here are some highlights of SWA management's SLI proposal:
-Almost all AAI F/Os stapled
-AAI Cptns lose between 27-40% relative seniority on the newly combined seniority list with the junior Cptns taking the hardest hit.
There were other little "gems" in the proposal too, but I think that the above mentioned stats should be sufficient to explain why we're rather insulted to say the least.
Not feeling the LUV.......
Here are some highlights of SWA management's SLI proposal:
-Almost all AAI F/Os stapled
-AAI Cptns lose between 27-40% relative seniority on the newly combined seniority list with the junior Cptns taking the hardest hit.
There were other little "gems" in the proposal too, but I think that the above mentioned stats should be sufficient to explain why we're rather insulted to say the least.
Not feeling the LUV.......
07-17-2011, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by MaxPowers
Those are the numbers I've heard. Draw a 300 mile circle around ATL and look at the cachement area.
No scenario discussed has a single SWA pilot's CA seat in danger. Not one SWA guy would be bumped from lineholder to reserve. Why do you guys keep screaming like someone's trying to take something from you? It's a little ridiculous.
No scenario discussed has a single SWA pilot's CA seat in danger. Not one SWA guy would be bumped from lineholder to reserve. Why do you guys keep screaming like someone's trying to take something from you? It's a little ridiculous.
07-17-2011, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by LuvJockey
Gentlemen, this will go nowhere until both parties know what is actually in the deal. At that point, our Delta friends will be free to criticize it all they want to.
I am sure that they have the best interests of both parties at heart. What they really fear is having to explain to their friends and neighbors in PeachTree city that they have lower pay and worse work rules than the AirTran guy that just bought the house across the street. Hell, the AirTran guy might even act like he is in charge of the hotel van.
I can't wait to hear the cries for justice from the same Delta guys who called AirTran a junk airline only 6 months ago.
With that, I'm done...for now. Peace out.
I am sure that they have the best interests of both parties at heart. What they really fear is having to explain to their friends and neighbors in PeachTree city that they have lower pay and worse work rules than the AirTran guy that just bought the house across the street. Hell, the AirTran guy might even act like he is in charge of the hotel van.
I can't wait to hear the cries for justice from the same Delta guys who called AirTran a junk airline only 6 months ago.
With that, I'm done...for now. Peace out.
07-17-2011, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
It seems you have a tough time understanding what relative seniority is. No one loses seniority and upgrade time... not doing relative in this merger would be stealing seniority and upgrade time.
07-17-2011, 11:59 AM
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How about this Smokey? Hire a math major to figure out for you what the average age looks like after the top 900 or so of your pilots are excluded---and you know why.
Also, tell the assembly how much growth you've experienced over the last five years. About the same for both teams, I'd suppose.
You are about to have a great AND growing airline so stop the whining. It's unbecoming of a millionaire.
Also, tell the assembly how much growth you've experienced over the last five years. About the same for both teams, I'd suppose.
You are about to have a great AND growing airline so stop the whining. It's unbecoming of a millionaire.
07-17-2011, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnDeere
How about this Smokey? Hire a math major to figure out for you what the average age looks like after the top 900 or so of your pilots are excluded---and you know why.
Also, tell the assembly how much growth you've experienced over the last five years. About the same for both teams, I'd suppose.
Also, tell the assembly how much growth you've experienced over the last five years. About the same for both teams, I'd suppose.
You are about to have a great AND growing airline so stop the whining. It's unbecoming of a millionaire.
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