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Old 03-01-2017, 06:34 AM
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I certainly agree that activity like trolling shouldn't be tolerated but seriously what is the beef with profanity? I would agree that there is a time and place where it is inappropriate such as in a job interview or a meeting with a superior. And while most people wouldn't use profanity with a different level co-worker most do with a peer. Many executives will use it with each other but not a subordinate. We don't speak to FAs or agents with profanity but when the cockpit door is shut we proceed to swear like sailors to each other.

This forum is comprised largely of peers and we are all big boys and girls. And while the moderators certainly have the right to censor their forum with their rules, imo you need to loosen the grip a little. This isn't church. My guess like most things you have to follow the money. I'd have to assume you have some advertiser(s) that don't want the profanity. We can understand that so just say so if that's the reason. Otherwise you need to loosen the grip on the reigns and let the conversation mirror the cockpit.
Think there's a difference in using profanity and calling someone a profane name. Pretty sure that's the problem.

You feel comfortable arguing on the flight deck so much that it escalates to name calling? Not sure that's good CRM.
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Old 03-01-2017, 06:36 AM
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I'm pretty well at the point there will be no forgiving or forgetting either.
I am already at this point, and we haven't even cracked the nut on monetary items.

These management goons are going to hold up our negotiations for years, while they make demands for concessions on every item in the current CBA that benefits the pilots.

Every FO needs to conduct a thorough walk around to find any discrepancies. We are directed and obligated to do so by FAR and the company.

Captains need to taxi S.A.F.E. (Slow As Fudge, Every time.) Stop driving like it's the Daytona 500. That would be against guidelines found in the AIM.
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Old 03-01-2017, 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by NoAccoutrements View Post
I am already at this point, and we haven't even cracked the nut on monetary items.

These management goons are going to hold up our negotiations for years, while they make demands for concessions on every item in the current CBA that benefits the pilots.

Every FO needs to conduct a thorough walk around to find any discrepancies. We are directed and obligated to do so by FAR and the company.

Captains need to taxi S.A.F.E. (Slow As Fudge, Every time.) Stop driving like it's the Daytona 500. That would be against guidelines found in the AIM.

I agree with this 100%
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Old 03-01-2017, 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by dn_wisconsin View Post
Think there's a difference in using profanity and calling someone a profane name. Pretty sure that's the problem.

You feel comfortable arguing on the flight deck so much that it escalates to name calling? Not sure that's good CRM.
Not what I meant. I've been "warned" via PM in the past for using profanity not calling someone a profane name. And I don't argue on the flight deck, I discuss.
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Old 03-01-2017, 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by NoAccoutrements View Post

Every FO needs to conduct a thorough walk around to find any discrepancies. We are directed and obligated to do so by FAR and the company.

Captains need to taxi S.A.F.E. (Slow As Fudge, Every time.) Stop driving like it's the Daytona 500. That would be against guidelines found in the AIM.
This is our job contract or not. It's sad some need a reminder.
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Old 03-01-2017, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by beech_nut View Post
I agree with this 100%

I have long forgotten how to single engine taxi and that crazy ground power procedure at the gate!! I just feel better doing the three engine taxi and I don't see any reason to stop.
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Old 03-01-2017, 01:59 PM
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I have long forgotten how to single engine taxi and that crazy ground power procedure at the gate!! I just feel better doing the three engine taxi and I don't see any reason to stop.
It is still our procedure to have one engine running until ground power is hooked up. That has not changed. So be it if you have to use all that gas with 2 or 3 spinning because of fire detection. Some rampers look confused that the engine is still on, is everyone else shutting down early or what?
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Old 03-01-2017, 02:11 PM
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It is still our procedure to have one engine running until ground power is hooked up. That has not changed. So be it if you have to use all that gas with 2 or 3 spinning because of fire detection. Some rampers look confused that the engine is still on, is everyone else shutting down early or what?
#1 can be shut down as long as the APU is up and running. Obviously or the plane goes dark

Procedure is:
Eng 2 is shut down as soon as APU is AVAIL, to provide for secondary/redundant fire protection.

At the gate, ENG 1 is shut down when GPU is hooked up OR APU is up providing power.

Perhaps I just misunderstood what you were saying, but we do not keep #1 and the APU up until the GPU is attached.
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Old 03-01-2017, 08:55 PM
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is it true pilots are bailing hugely? everyone i fly with has their stuff out....every....one
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Old 03-02-2017, 06:59 AM
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