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Old 04-23-2017, 04:51 PM
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You know as well as I do that a few cancellations here and there won't do anything. It won't be until they are way behind the 8 ball with systemic cancellations due to lack of qualified applicants to fill the right seat for $38/hr that they will come to the table with a real offer.
No, I don't know that.

Of course, this summer's impending meltdown will help us. But there is no legitimate excuse for those bailing them out now. All cancellations due to lack of crew help move the company/ BOD toward a deal. Suggesting otherwise is only making excuses for whorish behavior.
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Originally Posted by FreeSmiles View Post
You know as well as I do that a few cancellations here and there won't do anything. It won't be until they are way behind the 8 ball with systemic cancellations due to lack of qualified applicants to fill the right seat for $38/hr that they will come to the table with a real offer.


It's much more than a "few cancellations here and there" that would happen if we were unified. These things have a compounding affect as planes and crews find themselves out of position.

Plain and simple the guys who rush to help the company to make extra money are being purely selfish and short sighted. They are not in solidarity with the majority of us who are doing "whatever it takes" to get a deal done.

Record performance is NOT helping us but is hurting us at the negotiations table as the BOD sees no reason to change anything given everything is working well
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negotiations continue this week https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-eybXw0jSE
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You know, I haven't answered the phone for a JA since I started here, but I may just to pi$$ you off. You are doing more harm than good, buddy. We need to cool it with the friendly fire.
You wouldn't be ****ing him off, you'd be stealing his and his family's hard earned compensation. Wanting to **** someone off is far from mature, and if that is how you cope with emotional discomfort, maybe we should talk with your AME about which boxes you check on your form. Or talk to the playground instructor who attends your recess.
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Old 04-23-2017, 10:55 PM
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Being unified and acting as a cohesive unit is what will get us a contract. That, plus time, and the BOD coming to the realization that planes won't move without pilots. All you do by posting names, pairing numbers, etc on this forum where most of the culprits won't even see them, but management can read and have a chuckle on the toilet, is divide the group further and give management even more reason not to pay us. Have a little more patience, act like a grown up. The death throes are already starting.

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If you can't handle the truth...change the truth and worry about your allegiances. we don't get paid what we are worth, we get paid what we negotiate. Re-read your first sentence...acting as a cohesive. Remember flight instructing...learning is a change in behavior as a result of experience....no change...no learning. Get on board buddy.
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Gentlemen please take a deep breath and keep our aim where it belongs. You can make change in a positive way or a negative way. You're choice.

Man when this place DOES come unravelled and even if we didn't do a thing wrong all the company will have to do is come on here for evidence. Yikes.

How about unity towards the same end and stop writing things like this on public message boards.
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Funny, you don't sound like VladimirPutin talking like that.....who are you really?
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Vlad hit it on the head. Frotter... Go easy man, I'm on board, just trying to not let the childish behavior on here become fodder for lawyers to use against us when it really gets rough... Which it will. My point is, quit pointing your pistols at each other and remember who the real enemy is.

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Gentlemen please take a deep breath and keep our aim where it belongs. You can make change in a positive way or a negative way. You're choice.

Man when this place DOES come unravelled and even if we didn't do a thing wrong all the company will have to do is come on here for evidence. Yikes.

How about unity towards the same end and stop writing things like this on public message boards.
Where in the CBA does it say I have to pick up OT? Now if you're referring to a change in "status quo", I'd say the complete and utter disregard for our CBA by the company these past months falls in the same boat. Stop living in fear brother!
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