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Old 01-21-2018 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by gatorbird
I’m confused. Mergers and acquisitions are boring to you? I’ll ask again: you referenced the merger fund, then alluded to our future being bright. Rather than a cute, millienialish response, would you mind telling the rest of us how they correlate?
I'm too old to be a Millienial. Think I'm generation X. Think about it. There will be another round of consolidation sooner or later. I'd rather have solid language when that happens.

Look at it like this. You have auto insurance but don't plan on getting into a wreck. Now if the unthinkable occurs; I'll bet your really happy to have the insurance.

This new contractual language is our insurance policy that will protect us far better than we are protected today.

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Old 01-21-2018 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Green Giant
I'm voting yes. The scope protections will help us especially if this airline gets acquired or announces a merger. 43% raise then 5 years later get another 43% raise. That's big bucks folks.
Allot can happen in 5 years. We may never see it. Been down that road before. Just sayin.
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Old 01-21-2018 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Green Giant
I'm too old to be a Millienial. Think I'm generation X. Think about it. There will be another round of consolidation sooner or later. I'd rather have solid language when that happens.

Look at it like this. You have auto insurance but don't plan on getting into a wreck. Now if the unthinkable occurs; I'll bet your really happy to have the insurance.

This new contractual language is our insurance policy that will protect us far better than we are protected today.
Oh I understand the benefits of a good Section 1. But I haven’t seen it yet, hence my hesitation to vote yet. Have you?

And I’ll agree; if you’re not sure if you’re gen X then you are. Touché. 😁
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Old 01-21-2018 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Green Giant
I'm too old to be a Millienial. Think I'm generation X. Think about it. There will be another round of consolidation sooner or later. I'd rather have solid language when that happens.

Look at it like this. You have auto insurance but don't plan on getting into a wreck. Now if the unthinkable occurs; I'll bet your really happy to have the insurance.

This new contractual language is our insurance policy that will protect us far better than we are protected today.
Have not seen the scope section yet. The rumors are not good though. No scope no vote. My entire vote hinges on section 1
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Old 01-21-2018 | 06:54 PM
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Question for you guys/gals. IF this TA passes do we need the NMB anymore for the rest of this process? I wasn't sure if they have to give their final blessing or sign any final paperwork before its a done deal. I was just curious because I assume they are non-essential government workers and as you know with the government shutdown mess going on I was wondering if that would have any delay on us.
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Old 01-21-2018 | 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by JustVoteYes
Question for you guys/gals. IF this TA passes do we need the NMB anymore for the rest of this process? I wasn't sure if they have to give their final blessing or sign any final paperwork before its a done deal. I was just curious because I assume they are non-essential government workers and as you know with the government shutdown mess going on I was wondering if that would have any delay on us.
Nope, they were only needed to get us to an agreement. We only need them again if we turn down the current deal.
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Old 01-21-2018 | 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by AllOva736
Nope, they were only needed to get us to an agreement. We only need them again if we turn down the current deal.
Okay. Thanks!
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Old 01-22-2018 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by motorboatin
Do you honestly think that Delta and United are going to continue making money for ever and ever? Eventually there will be a concession. That's when the playing field will equalize. For now, it seems as though the numbers released today by the Spirit MEC create sustainability and offer large increases from the current agreement. Isn't that the point??
Legacy pilots will eventually have to drop their drawers, as they always have, to re-stabilize and establish the new baseline. History repeats. It's shortsighted to say Spirit will never catch up, more likely to ponder is how long can the Legacy's hold on to what they have. poof






Delta American United SWA as well as fedex and ups I doubt will lose money in the next 10years unless another 9/11 happens
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Old 01-22-2018 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Sniper66
Delta American United SWA as well as fedex and ups I doubt will lose money in the next 10years unless another 9/11 happens
Meh, I dunno about UAL........ as far as the others I agree
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Old 01-22-2018 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Sniper66
Delta American United SWA as well as fedex and ups I doubt will lose money in the next 10years unless another 9/11 happens
Wow. I am a very optimistic guy, but this is almost crazy. Oil is at 63 and rising. Peak profit is in the rearview mirror. Q3 of 2017 every single airline made less money than Q3 of 2016. Many financial analysts think United will loose money at some point in 2018. I honestly believe the legacy contracts won't get much if any better. Small improvement if any in the next round.
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