We got an AIP!
01-21-2018 | 09:29 AM
#701
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I average 20 hours and 4 days for every TX2, which I get most every month. With a 74 hour award, that means: 170 x 74= $12,580. That’s for 19-20 days off. If I go pickup during that month and work “like an airline pilot” with 15-16 days off, I’m at: 74 + 20= 94 x 170= $15,980. That’s an “effective rate” of $216/hr, and I call the shots on if I want to work or not. They’re offering me a 10% raise to $237/hr while losing my QOL control to a great extent, all while not earning PS/ESOP/inventive bonuses. And a less-than-stellar 11% DC to start. Might I remind you that this is the BEST negotiating environment we’ll ever see.
No vote from me until the TA, but not impressed by my bullet point math yet
No vote from me until the TA, but not impressed by my bullet point math yet
01-21-2018 | 09:46 AM
#702
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I average 20 hours and 4 days for every TX2, which I get most every month. With a 74 hour award, that means: 170 x 74= $12,580. That’s for 19-20 days off. If I go pickup during that month and work “like an airline pilot” with 15-16 days off, I’m at: 74 + 20= 94 x 170= $15,980. That’s an “effective rate” of $216/hr, and I call the shots on if I want to work or not. They’re offering me a 10% raise to $237/hr while losing my QOL control to a great extent, all while not earning PS/ESOP/inventive bonuses. And a less-than-stellar 11% DC to start. Might I remind you that this is the BEST negotiating environment we’ll ever see.
No vote from me until the TA, but not impressed by my bullet point math yet
No vote from me until the TA, but not impressed by my bullet point math yet
Spot on analysis of the average Spirit pilot living in base.
01-21-2018 | 10:15 AM
#703
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Ha and I should subsidize your TX2 You get every month when most of us don't? Gotcha.. Luckily there is more of us than you . get a 78 hour line in the future drop down to 60 at $229 an hour and that puts you over $13,000 still with your 18-19 days off. And if you if you decide to "work like an airline pilot" as stated in subsequent post and actually work your 78 hours you'll be at $17,000/month, not to mention that same exact schedule at DOS + 4 will get you $15,000/$20,000 month at $264/hr. And your family will suffer with big increase in retirement? better LTD insurance? and some semblance of scope protection? Thats a head scratcher right there.. But yeah our families should suffer without those protections all while you get that nice TX2 with 19 days off. Gotcha.
01-21-2018 | 10:20 AM
#704
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Best of luck in your decision. I really see this thing passing, primarily because we have so many looking to leave. Why not get a pay raise and bonus while looking for another job? After all, according to some MEC members it's why they did not put out the bendo mailing proposal. They were "TERRIFIED" it would pass.
01-21-2018 | 10:31 AM
#705
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quit making up numbers... net income YE 2016 was around 264 million. a 35% tax rate is roughly 92 million in federal tax. a reduction to 21% of 264 million is roughly 55 million. a savings of 37 million. 37 million in savings is quite a difference from your 200 million calculation. your about 163 million off.. If your gonna spread fake news, atleast make it believable fake news!!
01-21-2018 | 10:37 AM
#706
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quit making up numbers... net income YE 2016 was around 264 million. a 35% tax rate is roughly 92 million in federal tax. a reduction to 21% of 264 million is roughly 55 million. a savings of 37 million. 37 million in savings is quite a difference from your 200 million calculation. your about 163 million off.. If your gonna spread fake news, atleast make it believable fake news!!
01-21-2018 | 10:38 AM
#707
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quit making up numbers... net income YE 2016 was around 264 million. a 31% tax rate is roughly 81 million in federal tax. a reduction to 21% rate is of 264 million is roughly 55 million. a savings of 26 million. Not a math wiz but 26 million in savings is quite a difference from your 200 million calculation. your about 174 million off.. If your gonna spread fake news, atleast make it believable fake news!!
01-21-2018 | 10:55 AM
#709
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no Ill will or animosity! I enjoy the spirited debate (pun intended ) I respect you and your opinions as fellow worker and aviatior.. now go enjoy this Sunday as will I! We’ll commence the debate later in the week! Cheers!
01-21-2018 | 11:24 AM
#710
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Joined: Jan 2010
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From: Airbus
Ha and I should subsidize your TX2 You get every month when most of us don't? Gotcha.. Luckily there is more of us than you . get a 78 hour line in the future drop down to 60 at $229 an hour and that puts you over $13,000 still with your 18-19 days off. And if you if you decide to "work like an airline pilot" as stated in subsequent post and actually work your 78 hours you'll be at $17,000/month, not to mention that same exact schedule at DOS + 4 will get you $15,000/$20,000 month at $264/hr. And your family will suffer with big increase in retirement? better LTD insurance? and some semblance of scope protection? Thats a head scratcher right there.. But yeah our families should suffer without those protections all while you get that nice TX2 with 19 days off. Gotcha.
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