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Green Giant 09-01-2019 08:34 AM

I’ve given up on an airplane order.

HardPassSpa 09-01-2019 11:15 AM

Yeah I see them just buying planes when they come available. That’s how they will sustain our growth. No need for a plane order. Just benefit from other airlines misfortune.


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MCDUmanipulator 09-01-2019 12:27 PM


Originally Posted by Green Giant (Post 2879933)
I’ve given up on an airplane order.

Think they’re had other things on their mind this past week #Dorian

flyjbh 09-01-2019 12:51 PM

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Omniscient 09-01-2019 01:23 PM

Huge upgrades scheduled

Massive hiring scheduled...


And yet people fail to connect the dots and need to see the press release.

Qotsaautopilot 09-01-2019 03:43 PM


Originally Posted by Omniscient (Post 2880021)
Huge upgrades scheduled

Massive hiring scheduled...


And yet people fail to connect the dots and need to see the press release.

Deliveries scheduled for the next two years and way behind on staffing. I seriously doubt upgraded and hiring now are for an aircraft order in 2021.

Omniscient 09-01-2019 04:20 PM


Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot (Post 2880053)
Deliveries scheduled for the next two years and way behind on staffing. I seriously doubt upgraded and hiring now are for an aircraft order in 2021.

Point being incredible numbers of upgrades happening over the next year and new hires to fill in behind. If people aren’t happy about that, don’t know what else they need now.

It seems everyone wants a 2 year upgrade, base of their choosing and line holding ability. Short of that, people complain or blame the union for “giving up” reserve drops.

Lincoln Osiris 09-01-2019 06:07 PM


Originally Posted by Omniscient (Post 2880066)
Point being incredible numbers of upgrades happening over the next year and new hires to fill in behind. If people aren’t happy about that, don’t know what else they need now.

It seems everyone wants a 2 year upgrade, base of their choosing and line holding ability. Short of that, people complain or blame the union for “giving up” reserve drops.


Settle down there tiger.

Omniscient 09-01-2019 07:15 PM


Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris (Post 2880097)
Settle down there tiger.

Roar!...........

Ed Force One 09-03-2019 12:22 PM

Boeing has to make their huge press release before we make ours.

sioux8ships 09-03-2019 04:01 PM


Originally Posted by Ed Force One (Post 2880869)
Boeing has to make their huge press release before we make ours.

So after the holidays then based on the latest Max news.

Cefiro 09-04-2019 09:23 AM


Originally Posted by sioux8ships (Post 2880986)
So after the holidays then based on the latest Max news.

The longer it goes, the more I believe these rumors.

LandGreen 09-05-2019 05:37 PM

“Unless things change significantly, this is my last message about Hurricane Dorian, but you’ll be hearing more from me soon.

Thank you for all that you do.

Ted“

New snack menu announcement party soon, strait from the top.

BeechedJet 09-05-2019 06:15 PM

We getting the moldy beef sticks back???

Skypilotsv1984 09-05-2019 06:34 PM

If I remember correctly, the first time we heard from Bob was when he scolded us and then sued us. I guess ol’ Teddy doesn’t have that convenient excuse this time.

ropestart 09-06-2019 05:13 AM

Apparently, Teddy and Bendo were in a new hire class yesterday. They were spouting off about the 737 and how great it is.

Omniscient 09-06-2019 05:22 AM


Originally Posted by ropestart (Post 2882290)
Apparently, Teddy and Bendo were in a new hire class yesterday. They were spouting off about the 737 and how great it is.

Nice last minute negotiating.

Reminds me of when I bought a new car last year.....”you know, the dealer around the corner is offering free maintenance.”

ULLI 09-06-2019 07:18 AM


Originally Posted by ropestart (Post 2882290)
Apparently, Teddy and Bendo were in a new hire class yesterday. They were spouting off about the 737 and how great it is.

What's so great about it? Purchase price?
VNAV is the only thing I can come up with that is less work demanding for pilots, everything else requires more action

FNGFO 09-06-2019 07:49 AM


Originally Posted by ULLI (Post 2882379)
What's so great about it? Purchase price?
VNAV is the only thing I can come up with that is less work demanding for pilots, everything else requires more action

Do you really think that pilot workload figures into their purchase decision making?

gringo 09-06-2019 08:53 AM


Originally Posted by Skypilotsv1984 (Post 2882151)
If I remember correctly, the first time we heard from Bob was when he scolded us and then sued us. I guess ol’ Teddy doesn’t have that convenient excuse this time.

This is incorrect.

The first time we heard from Bobby Two Scoops was a mere couple of weeks after he took over.

“Hi, my name is Bob and I like ice cream!”

Or words to that nature.

Now we have Guitar Hero who goes NORDO for four gd months after he took the helm... but vomits out six emails in one week when the stock is at 52 week lows.

Skyehog 09-06-2019 09:16 AM

I think it was hi I like pasta and ice cream.

Ole Bobby two scoops

MCDUmanipulator 09-06-2019 09:25 AM

Word on the street is that Delta is transferring the remainder of their A321 order to us (about 100 planes) because they scored a deal with Boeing on Max 10’s. Deliveries end of next year.

Falls in line with the last interview of Christie saying we were looking at 321 NEO’s.

Omniscient 09-06-2019 09:43 AM


Originally Posted by gringo (Post 2882445)
This is incorrect.

The first time we heard from Bobby Two Scoops was a mere couple of weeks after he took over.

“Hi, my name is Bob and I like ice cream!”

Or words to that nature.

Now we have Guitar Hero who goes NORDO for four gd months after he took the helm... but vomits out six emails in one week when the stock is at 52 week lows.

But don’t forget, we are “family”

ULLI 09-06-2019 09:56 AM


Originally Posted by FNGFO (Post 2882402)
Do you really think that pilot workload figures into their purchase decision making?

I don't, that's why i asked. Also mentioned, besides purchase price.

RemoveB4flght 09-06-2019 10:21 AM


Originally Posted by ULLI (Post 2882498)
I don't, that's why i asked. Also mentioned, besides purchase price.

Purchase price or lease terms, spares, pilot/crew training, sims, pre negotiated power plant prices, maintenance training and discounts, etc etc etc.

There are dozens and hundreds of facets to sweeten a large aircraft order that would facilitate a fleet change or at very least a large operational change to accommodate different types.

Qotsaautopilot 09-06-2019 12:33 PM


Originally Posted by Omniscient (Post 2882486)
But don’t forget, we are “family”

Literally every corporation I have worked for and my wife has worked for has used the word family when referring to employees. Do they teach that in some HR course? I can’t think of anyone that believes that BS yet every company uses the terminology. I find it insulting that they actually think saying family is going to get employees more engaged. You know what gets employees engaged? Profit sharing! Tell them let’s all get rich together and get out there and make that money. The rah rah nonsense is so tired in corporate America.

gringo 09-06-2019 01:13 PM


Originally Posted by Skyehog (Post 2882465)
I think it was hi I like pasta and ice cream.

Ole Bobby two scoops

“Pizza and ice cream.”

Now I remember. Inspiring words from our new CEO.

The next time we heard from him was a painfully scripted response a month after he insulted the entire pilot group with his “low tier” insult.

A month. With BOHICA by his side.

Gawd that was painful to watch.

And yet.

So much more than what we have now...

“Family.”

Someone que Inigo Montoya please...

The Localizer 09-06-2019 06:30 PM


Originally Posted by MCDUmanipulator (Post 2882470)
Word on the street is that Delta is transferring the remainder of their A321 order to us (about 100 planes) because they scored a deal with Boeing on Max 10’s. Deliveries end of next year.

Falls in line with the last interview of Christie saying we were looking at 321 NEO’s.

While I will never dismiss any rumor, the 737 max 10 will not be into service until 2022 I think, and that’s if Boeing can get their crap together on the max 8. We have 100 neos to begin delivery next year. They were supposed to start in March , they have been delayed for what they are calling parts issues. But if this rumor were true, we would not be getting at least 50 planes we were supposed to get by 2022.
We also have 100 options on this plane so a scenario that could happen with this rumor is possibly spirit taking some of our options and us splitting the order by receiving 100 max 10s instead

MCDUmanipulator 09-06-2019 06:57 PM


Originally Posted by The Localizer (Post 2882742)
While I will never dismiss any rumor, the 737 max 10 will not be into service until 2022 I think, and that’s if Boeing can get their crap together on the max 8. We have 100 neos to begin delivery next year. They were supposed to start in March , they have been delayed for what they are calling parts issues. But if this rumor were true, we would not be getting at least 50 planes we were supposed to get by 2022.
We also have 100 options on this plane so a scenario that could happen with this rumor is possibly spirit taking some of our options and us splitting the order by receiving 100 max 10s instead

Not sure if the Max 10 is actually in play or not. Just assumed it would be since it’s nearest in size to the 321. Could be Max 9’s

The Localizer 09-06-2019 07:01 PM


Originally Posted by MCDUmanipulator (Post 2882759)
Not sure if the Max 10 is actually in play or not. Just assumed it would be since it’s nearest in size to the 321. Could be Max 9’s

Ok what is your source then, because on this thread and our delta thread you posted saying it was for the max 10, now you are saying well I don’t know maybe it’s for the max 9

Omniscient 09-06-2019 07:25 PM


Originally Posted by The Localizer (Post 2882762)
Ok what is your source then, because on this thread and our delta thread you posted saying it was for the max 10, now you are saying well I don’t know maybe it’s for the max 9

Source? Haha. This is the forums, where lies and speculation is gospel.

The Localizer 09-06-2019 07:40 PM


Originally Posted by Omniscient (Post 2882774)
Source? Haha. This is the forums, where lies and speculation is gospel.

Haha I hear you

MCDUmanipulator 09-07-2019 04:32 AM


Originally Posted by The Localizer (Post 2882762)
Ok what is your source then, because on this thread and our delta thread you posted saying it was for the max 10, now you are saying well I don’t know maybe it’s for the max 9

A good reporter never reveals their sources. Let’s just say Boeing very badly wants Delta back as a customer.

Halon1211 09-07-2019 04:42 AM


Originally Posted by Omniscient (Post 2882774)
Source? Haha. This is the forums, where lies and speculation is gospel.

Let me tell you ‘bout this one.

Golfgameonpar 09-07-2019 10:54 AM

You sir are correct! Spirit is finalizing a deal with Delta to acquire 100 321 NEO aircraft with options for an additional 100. Delta placed this order in 2017 and deliveries start January 2020. Delta is currently working on a deal with Boeing to acquire a large number of MAX jets (quantity and airframe are still unknown) in an attempt to grow and gain control of KSEA while helping Americas largest aircraft manufacturer get back on their feet. There has been great efforts on all parties involved to get this deal done in a timely manner but due to the complexity of a transaction of this magnitude it is taking longer than anticipated. Please be patient

Big E 757 09-07-2019 01:52 PM


Originally Posted by Golfgameonpar (Post 2883040)
You sir are correct! Spirit is finalizing a deal with Delta to acquire 100 321 NEO aircraft with options for an additional 100. Delta placed this order in 2017 and deliveries start January 2020. Delta is currently working on a deal with Boeing to acquire a large number of MAX jets (quantity and airframe are still unknown) in an attempt to grow and gain control of KSEA while helping Americas largest aircraft manufacturer get back on their feet. There has been great efforts on all parties involved to get this deal done in a timely manner but due to the complexity of a transaction of this magnitude it is taking longer than anticipated. Please be patient

I don’t believe a word of this.

80ktsClamp 09-07-2019 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by Golfgameonpar (Post 2883040)
You sir are correct! Spirit is finalizing a deal with Delta to acquire 100 321 NEO aircraft with options for an additional 100. Delta placed this order in 2017 and deliveries start January 2020. Delta is currently working on a deal with Boeing to acquire a large number of MAX jets (quantity and airframe are still unknown) in an attempt to grow and gain control of KSEA while helping Americas largest aircraft manufacturer get back on their feet. There has been great efforts on all parties involved to get this deal done in a timely manner but due to the complexity of a transaction of this magnitude it is taking longer than anticipated. Please be patient

Ha! Did you hear that from a mechanic or a flight attendant?

Word at DL (along with the delay of the 321NEO) is that we’ll be exercising an additional 100 options. So, literally the opposite of your wishful post.

StrykerB21 09-07-2019 02:18 PM

Cessna Caravans. A thousand of em.

Skypilotsv1984 09-07-2019 02:27 PM


Originally Posted by StrykerB21 (Post 2883097)
Cessna Caravans. A thousand of em.

Florence to Myrtle Beach will be the primary route.

nkbux 09-07-2019 02:41 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 2883089)
Ha! Did you hear that from a mechanic or a flight attendant?

Word at DL (along with the delay of the 321NEO) is that we’ll be exercising an additional 100 options. So, literally the opposite of your wishful post.

Ya have to agree with this... kinda looks like Ed B is in love with airbi and Boeing can go... well you know


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