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Originally Posted by GrumpyCaptain
(Post 2884278)
Phl and atl short. Horrible for a 16 hour overnight. Zero options for food. Not a single thing to do outside except stand in a parking lot.... let’s stop calling an 18 hour overnight short....
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I thought this was about getting Delta's NEOs...
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No, it’s just for whining .....
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Originally Posted by DickBurns
(Post 2884291)
I thought this was about getting Delta's NEOs...
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Originally Posted by The Localizer
(Post 2884312)
So look, none of us in this industry truly know anything until it happens and you can’t rule anything out....but we just installed another brand new a 320 sim, I believe we have 6 or 7 we wouldn’t keep adding stuff like this if we didn’t have a long term commitment to the plane. Lots of other stuff can happen, delivery slots can be swapped, options can be traded, but for delta to just give 100 planes and 100 options to a competitor is just likely not going to happen.
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Originally Posted by Stomper
(Post 2884243)
New hotel policy sucks.
The new hotel policy under the new contract (and post PBS) has created far more short stay hotels as the company builds shorter layovers into the pairings. Part of the savings the company has realized with the short stay hotels is the reduced need for private transportation since short stay hotels usually provide van service. We’re also seeing far more short stay hotels which are not full service, meaning to hotel restaurant/bar and fake food for breakfast (powdered eggs, meat-like bacon). Just because it’s s short stay the hotel quality should not be reduced. BOS short sucks. PIT short sucks. DFW short sucks. CMH short sucks. All Hotels weather long or short should be full service and at least a Crowne Plaza/Marriott/Hilton/Sheraton quality. |
Originally Posted by DickBurns
(Post 2884291)
I thought this was about getting Delta's NEOs...
You are funny |
Maybe we can use Delta’s NEOs as a place to sleep at night.
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Originally Posted by BeechedJet
(Post 2885141)
Maybe we can use Delta’s NEOs as a place to sleep at night.
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Almost half way into the month and still no aircraft order announcement as promised in investors call. Can’t say that I’m surprised. I do wonder how investors feel though....being lead on and on about a new order and growing the airline.
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Originally Posted by BlueSideUp85
(Post 2886016)
Almost half way into the month and still no aircraft order announcement as promised in investors call. Can’t say that I’m surprised. I do wonder how investors feel though....being lead on and on about a new order and growing the airline.
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:eek: you don’t say....
Well my concerns have been laid to rest thank you. |
Truthfully I think the investors care less about the aircraft order and more about the company’s performance. Now, the pilots really care about the aircraft order and if you are a pilot and an investor, then the investors care about an aircraft order....[emoji12]
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Look at the stock price. That's how the investors feel. Stop reading into it.
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As an investor I'd say get the house in order before taking on additional risk in the form of aircraft debt but I'd love to see sustainable growth at Spirit. Keep the planes full and strive for repeat customers. Celebrating a cancelled flight in front of stranded passengers isn't the smartest move and I see it all too often in the terminal. The revenue lost doesn't stop at just one flight if people are not going to come back in the future.
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Originally Posted by BlueSideUp85
(Post 2886016)
Almost half way into the month and still no aircraft order announcement as promised in investors call. Can’t say that I’m surprised. I do wonder how investors feel though....being lead on and on about a new order and growing the airline.
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Originally Posted by Sherpa
(Post 2886207)
As an investor I'd say get the house in order before taking on additional risk in the form of aircraft debt but I'd love to see sustainable growth at Spirit. Keep the planes full and strive for repeat customers. Celebrating a cancelled flight in front of stranded passengers isn't the smartest move and I see it all too often in the terminal. The revenue lost doesn't stop at just one flight if people are not going to come back in the future.
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
(Post 2886260)
Man I hear ya. Some of the conversations I hear in the terminal and on the van in front of the public make me cringe. Mostly FAs but some pilots too. It’s like people don’t understand the the folks you are running your mouth around are the ones paying the money.
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Announcement today after the stock market closes? 100 320 NEO’s?
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Originally Posted by squawkoff
(Post 2886602)
Announcement today after the stock market closes? 100 320 NEO’s?
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Originally Posted by squawkoff
(Post 2886602)
Announcement today after the stock market closes? 100 320 NEO’s?
Filler |
Originally Posted by nkbux
(Post 2886661)
Source?
Filler |
Possible Plane Order
Originally Posted by Omniscient
(Post 2886343)
FAs mainly, yup. It’s ridiculous. I’ve been deadheading and have had FAs talking openly about how they hope their next flight is canceled, and loud about it. Zero oversight on FAs. It’s amazing because it seems they have an enforceable list of a million things they can get “points”’for, yet nobody makes sure they get off their phone during boarding or have the window shades closed in the summer.
And as discussed, they get profit sharing IF we ever see it I never understood the “I hope it cancels” mentality. For one, you’re ruining a lot of people’s plans (vacations/funerals/birthdays/ births of a family member/etc) because you’re selfish and want to go have a drink at the hotel. Two, cancellations are never as easy as: “you’re cancelled, here’s a really nice hotel on the beach and a car is outside waiting to take you there.” It’s usually a major cluster F where you sit around for 2 hours waiting for them to find a hotel then you get minimum rest just to deadhead at the crack of dawn to pick up the rest of your trip. |
Originally Posted by TrojanCMH
(Post 2886778)
I never understood the “I hope it cancels” mentality. For one, you’re ruining a lot of people’s plans (vacations/funerals/birthdays/ births of a family member/etc) because you’re selfish and want to go have a drink at the hotel. Two, cancellations are never as easy as: “you’re cancelled, here’s a really nice hotel on the beach and a car is outside waiting to take you there.” It’s usually a major cluster F where you sit around for 2 hours waiting for them to find a hotel then you get minimum rest just to deadhead at the crack of dawn to pick up the rest of your trip.
Is it poor taste to announce that hope I’m hearing range of people that would be impacted? Absolutely! |
Can anyone confirm this? I was told SAVE stock trading window has been suspended for all higher management. I guess it can only mean big news is coming next week.
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Originally Posted by Poser765
(Post 2886838)
they aren’t really ruining anything, though are they? I mean, hoping something cancels isn’t making a wish that if suddenly comes true is because it was made. It was going to cancel regardless.
Is it poor taste to announce that hope I’m hearing range of people that would be impacted? Absolutely! I just don’t get why someone would be hoping all these people’s plans get screwed up. I know it’s out of their control just shows what kind of person you are to be excited about something like that. |
Originally Posted by flyjbh
(Post 2886850)
Can anyone confirm this? I was told SAVE stock trading window has been suspended for all higher management. I guess it can only mean big news is coming next week.
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Originally Posted by Halon1211
(Post 2887017)
That is correct, in a filing from yesterday, the SEC had suspended trading for all senior managment pursuant to section § 78u–1.
Boeing has added 24 787’s to its order total from an “unknown customer” |
Originally Posted by The Localizer
(Post 2887025)
That has a very good chance of being delta
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Originally Posted by skytrekker
(Post 2883401)
So the airline that puts the freeze on anybody growing in ATL, that also allegedly stopped SW from building a terminal on the south cargo ramp, is going to do a 100 plus aircraft deal with NK? OK.
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Any suspension of stock purchases would point to a merger/acquisition .. not a plane order . The SEC doesn’t care about capital expenditures.. investing in ones company on plant , property, equipment is normal growth that all companies strive for. Changing ownership structure, stock distribution, is much more relevant to the government for public companies . Just my hunch if that indeed did happen
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Originally Posted by Halon1211
(Post 2887017)
That is correct, in a filing from yesterday, the SEC had suspended trading for all senior managment pursuant to section § 78u–1.
Boeing has added 24 787’s to its order total from an “unknown customer” It’s related to insider trading |
Everyone realizes that we as a pilot group can’t control if we unite with another carrier or do another aircraft order??
No matter what Spirit plans to do, you can’t control it, the only thing you can do is stay or quit, so relax and find more pleasures in life if that is at all possible with any of you |
Originally Posted by Halon1211
(Post 2887017)
That is correct, in a filing from yesterday, the SEC had suspended trading for all senior managment pursuant to section § 78u–1.
Boeing has added 24 787’s to its order total from an “unknown customer” |
Originally Posted by NK Bumble Bee
(Post 2887108)
Searching Spirit's filings on the SEC website last reveals the 8K and 10KQ reports, nothing about 78u-1. Do you have the document link, or is this another "source"?
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Originally Posted by NK Bumble Bee
(Post 2887108)
Searching Spirit's filings on the SEC website last reveals the 8K and 10KQ reports, nothing about 78u-1. Do you have the document link, or is this another "source"?
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There is a fairly recent undisclosed order for 15 A321 NEOs though. Also wonder if a stock buyback could cause a freeze on employee stock purchases. Seems like pretty good timing to do so at the current price.
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Originally Posted by FLYBOYMATTHEW
(Post 2887129)
There is a fairly recent undisclosed order for 15 A321 NEOs though. Also wonder if a stock buyback could cause a freeze on employee stock purchases. Seems like pretty good timing to do so at the current price.
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Wasn't wondering if we could buy it or not, was curious if a buyback freezes purchases for execs.
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Originally Posted by FLYBOYMATTHEW
(Post 2887287)
Wasn't wondering if we could buy it or not, was curious if a buyback freezes purchases for execs.
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