Is most of the Latin America/Caribbean flying turns or are there some overnights mixed in?

 

Depends on base. You’ll see Santo Domingo, Bogota, San Juan, Guayaquil, Lima, amongst others.


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And also...Cali, Colombia, Montego Bay, Aguadilla, and San Jose (On and off)

 

My pre and post contract assessment is that they hire from a wide range of backgrounds and experience. Quality is up a bit and probably total a time a little, and this is my unscientific personal sample size. Seems like I find a common theme from the past year or two with some exceptions. That theme is low flight risk, and willingness to be content with less. I see tons of new hires with no bachelors degree. That right there brings them to spirit and not legacies. Then it’s a mix or low time, corporate only background, or skeletons.

All of these are different but the result is an applicant that cant easily leave and sees a good deal when it comes their way. And being 15% + or - undercompensated is a good deal for most unfortunately and it takes years to break that attitude if it’s possible. The low time guy is the only of the above that one day will be competitive to leave but by that point they will be too comfortable to try usually.

We all know this is a much better job than our last otherwise we wouldn’t be here. The key is getting people to understand that no matter what their background, once you’re a spirit pilot you don’t have to settle for less because of that background. You are just as valuable to this company as a legacy pilot is to theirs. And I’m not talking about some self esteem lift your moral BS. I’m talking about value in the form of what we do and how it’s compensated

 

This. They hire on personality but weed out posers in the training program. If you're not already ahead when you show up, you're going to find the sims very difficult.

 

Edited for emphasis on how far behind we are from United 320 middle longevity captain. Pay rates only. Does not include retirement or rigs so the disparity is actually larger. They are in negotiations as well

 

Hopefully those that vote yes for any labor contract do so because they believe the terms are the best(multiple factors weigh) that could be had as opposed to some idea of self worth and personal salary expectations. If not, it's just charity to the company to the detriment of labor and their families. Sounds like you believe a lot was left on the company's side and that would be a shame for not just Spirit pilots but the profession as a whole.

 

I'm guessing most that voted for this new(er) contract saw the bonus and pay rates $$ and voted on that. I've run into a lot of folks recently that were "surprised" by things in the contract. I can't say I feel bad for them clearly they voted without reading the entire thing.

 

Bonus? Is that how it is perceived? Is not signing money just a true-up to cover losses during extended negotiations? And this payment should increase the longer things take...

 

ive heard quite a bit of this exact scenario