Spirit May 2019 hiring
08-11-2019 | 06:56 PM
#221
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From: A320 FO
If you don’t mind me asking, when did you interview? Aug 7?
08-11-2019 | 07:04 PM
#222
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Abso-friggin-lutely. They are similarly disgraceful. And the problem is the union and it’s members, not management. They have demonstrated the ability to extract decent money from management in those contracts. And at the same time they have demonstrated they really don’t give a $h|t about their own new hires.
08-11-2019 | 07:27 PM
#224
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From: MEC Chairman, Snack Basket Committee
Hawaiian's is criminally low lol.. Ups, yeah, same story.. $10 less than spirit 1st yr pay, but $70 more than spirit second year pay.. Yeah I don't expect sympathy at all.. I know anyone over 35 civilian has probably seen $19 first yr so... Yeah.. I get it. I can make the life adjustment if I have to.. I just got a little defensive when it was insinuated that its a debt/money mgmt issue. You can be debt free all you want.. $57 an hour is gonna be tough to support a family on in California
08-11-2019 | 07:30 PM
#225
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From: MEC Chairman, Snack Basket Committee
Abso-friggin-lutely. They are similarly disgraceful. And the problem is the union and it’s members, not management. They have demonstrated the ability to extract decent money from management in those contracts. And at the same time they have demonstrated they really don’t give a $h|t about their own new hires.
08-11-2019 | 07:46 PM
#226
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Well, with guys here with attitudes like this:
Dropped the ball? Far from. You don't waste negotiating capital on people who aren't on property. If the pay is preventing the company from getting quality candidates they will become very eager to go back to the negotiating table. In exchange for higher first year pay, the association will seek improvements in the contract that will help pilots who are on property and paying dues.
That’s raising FUPME to a new level.
08-11-2019 | 08:19 PM
#227
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I never quite understood from the old old contract to the old the first year pay went from $40 an hour to $38.50. That was always a head scratcher. That being said I would have killed for $57 when I was at $38.50.
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08-11-2019 | 09:26 PM
#228
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Management loves the “its better than my regional” philosophy. It’s what got us our stellar (sarcastic) new contract where on reserve we lost all qol. The more people they hire with this philosophy the more the bar is lowered every time come contract negotiations. I also agree that we will start struggling to find new hires again, unless other airlines stop hiring completely.
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08-12-2019 | 03:51 AM
#229
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Well, with guys here with attitudes like this:
It’s obvious some of these people don’t give the northerly end of a southbound rat about their fellow pilots. He’s not only NOT looking after the most underpaid people in the pilot group, he wants to hold ALLOWING MANAGEMENT TO RAISE NEWBIE pay hostage to higher pay for himself.
That’s raising FUPME to a new level.
It’s obvious some of these people don’t give the northerly end of a southbound rat about their fellow pilots. He’s not only NOT looking after the most underpaid people in the pilot group, he wants to hold ALLOWING MANAGEMENT TO RAISE NEWBIE pay hostage to higher pay for himself.
That’s raising FUPME to a new level.
They didn't drop the ball, they got the largest percentage raise in ALPA history, including a significant first year pay bump.
08-12-2019 | 04:24 AM
#230
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It wasn’t even industry standard. Pull your head out of the sand. Enjoy flying with the below industry standard. We are getting some great guys no doubt but not 60 a month. And the good ones we are getting are leaving bc everywhere else is paying $90/hr with healthcare day one. Just wrote a LOR the other day for one. Hate to see them go.
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