Spirit May 2019 hiring
08-11-2019, 06:56 PM
#221
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Originally Posted by SpiritFailure
I got TBNT. While everyone was qualified I was very shocked by the low experience levels. I don't know if this is a Spirit strategy or if this is representative of who they have applying so I'd encourage all low timers to put their app in.
If you don’t mind me asking, when did you interview? Aug 7?
08-11-2019, 07:04 PM
#222
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Originally Posted by AllOva736
I agree that first year pay is rough but would you say the same things in regards to first year pay about Hawaiian or UPS , both Lower than Spirit?
08-11-2019, 07:27 PM
#224
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Originally Posted by AllOva736
I agree that first year pay is rough but would you say the same things in regards to first year pay about Hawaiian or UPS , both Lower than Spirit? I imagine more people here are sympathetic to our new hire pay issues than other places.
08-11-2019, 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
Abso-friggin-lutely. They are similarly disgraceful. And the problem is the union and it’s members, not management. They have demonstrated the ability to extract decent money from management in those contracts. And at the same time they have demonstrated they really don’t give a $h|t about their own new hires.
08-11-2019, 07:46 PM
#226
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Originally Posted by BobbyLeeSwagger
Hahaha you always say it better than me homie!
Well, with guys here with attitudes like this:
Originally Posted by skigambia
Dropped the ball? Far from. You don't waste negotiating capital on people who aren't on property. If the pay is preventing the company from getting quality candidates they will become very eager to go back to the negotiating table. In exchange for higher first year pay, the association will seek improvements in the contract that will help pilots who are on property and paying dues.
That’s raising FUPME to a new level.
08-11-2019, 08:19 PM
#227
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I never quite understood from the old old contract to the old the first year pay went from $40 an hour to $38.50. That was always a head scratcher. That being said I would have killed for $57 when I was at $38.50.
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08-11-2019, 09:26 PM
#228
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
because it’s the only place they could get on and it’s better than a regional
certainly doesn’t get 60 a month of the best.
certainly doesn’t get 60 a month of the best.
Management loves the “its better than my regional” philosophy. It’s what got us our stellar (sarcastic) new contract where on reserve we lost all qol. The more people they hire with this philosophy the more the bar is lowered every time come contract negotiations. I also agree that we will start struggling to find new hires again, unless other airlines stop hiring completely.
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08-12-2019, 03:51 AM
#229
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
Well, with guys here with attitudes like this:
It’s obvious some of these people don’t give the northerly end of a southbound rat about their fellow pilots. He’s not only NOT looking after the most underpaid people in the pilot group, he wants to hold ALLOWING MANAGEMENT TO RAISE NEWBIE pay hostage to higher pay for himself.
That’s raising FUPME to a new level.
It’s obvious some of these people don’t give the northerly end of a southbound rat about their fellow pilots. He’s not only NOT looking after the most underpaid people in the pilot group, he wants to hold ALLOWING MANAGEMENT TO RAISE NEWBIE pay hostage to higher pay for himself.
That’s raising FUPME to a new level.
They didn't drop the ball, they got the largest percentage raise in ALPA history, including a significant first year pay bump.
08-12-2019, 04:24 AM
#230
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Originally Posted by skigambia
I'm not saying it's right. I'm not saying it's wrong. I'm simply saying, this is the reality.
They didn't drop the ball, they got the largest percentage raise in ALPA history, including a significant first year pay bump.
They didn't drop the ball, they got the largest percentage raise in ALPA history, including a significant first year pay bump.
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