Strictly off the November award, the plug was a little more junior in FLL, but it's practically negligible. You'll get a line in either one around the same time I would think.

 

What’s next...my dad can beat up your dad?

People losing the ability to feed their families isn’t funny. They’ve got about as much control over their company as you have over yours, and you’ll hopefully never be in that situation.

The reality is EVERY Pilot has to worry about losing a flying job, heard of Pan Am, Eastern, Braniff...?

Try to stay classy...

 

Which PanAm do you speak of? Also, Eastern; multiple zombie versions floating around... are you speaking of EA1.0, or the version where my former sim partner tried to take Mike Pence for a swim?

😂😂😂

 

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Thank for the info gents.

 

I went to spirit with 28 years of flying experience (20 of it paid) and I was damn glad to get my $38/hr. I think your expectations are a little out of whack. I agree that first year pay most places sucks but companies are going to set first year pay as low as possible as both a filter against entitled folks who don't REALLY want to work at that company, to manage the number of applications they get, and to manage the experience level of people they hire. If they're not getting the quality of applicants they want, the company is free to bump up first year pay at any time. But they don't, which means they're perfectly happy with their applicant pool.

If it's too low for you and you don't think it's worth it in spite of the millions of dollars in future career earnings getting on that seniority list NOW represents, then you're obviously not the applicant they're looking for. That doesn't mean it's right, that's just the way it is.

And I'll repeat my points - looking at just first year pay is extremely illogical, and it's possible to survive almost anywhere on any major's first year pay with a little lifestyle management.

 

MCO is still a growing base, and how beneficial it would be to go there at the moment is a tough call.

Over the last 6-7 months there have been a lot of jumping back and forth from more senior pilots. Even with a ton of captain slot being created and with MCO upgrades, at around 70% seniority you would actually would have moved backwards between the last two bids.

It’s tough to get a handle on time frames for getting a line because it hasn’t decided if it’s going to be senior or junior on the right seat. Florida commuters and those who live north of Palm beach can opt for either base if it will get them Xmas off. Flying can also shift around to make one more attractive than the other.

Getting to either base at the moment is not much of an issue, what happens from there is up in the air.

 

They're not free to bump up first year whenever they want...

Keep in mind our competitors all pay 85-95 first year. Almost our second year pay.


But sure. "Everybody keeps it low to weed out entitled folks"

 

They can hand out a bonus before they arrive on property.

 

FLL. Unless something changes, drastically, that is always your quickest to a line domicile.

Then when you get it, assuming you live near MCO, you can drop/swap and build a line using Open Time trips out of MCO.

 

But he can come on here and brag about how he’s making more than our new hire, and talk negatively about our situation?