Nope.

I’m sure it’s to ensure it’s to prevent pilots picking up on their days off in order to not be legal or contractual for assignments on reserve.

But you are eligible for premium trips; so it’s IF they need you.

Under the old contract you could not pick up on days off either

 

Ah so you could still X/Y list on reserve then?

 

Yes, but it would have to be a very specific trip to get called as most off periods between RAPs are 4 days, and they won’t risk interfering with a reserve period if they can help it.

You might get called a bit for seat support as a first year guy if you avail yourself to the training center. 4 hours of pay and some extra sim time. Those opportunities went away when I hit second year pay.

 

5th year Capt pay is 206/Hr. If you credit 100 hrs a month every month that’s $247,200. So tell us all how your getting well north of 250k? Not saying your lying but just trying to make sense of the math.

 

We can pick up open time at 200%.

 

Understood. So every single month you can get that much 200% flying? Only select trips are 200% and they come and go month to month. So let’s say you start with 75 to 78 hours. To get “well north of 250k” it still seems almost impossible. To get well above 250k you would have to be working your tail off and getting very lucky really often.

 

There are captains who live in base in MCO who made over 150 hours per month every month of the summer. It is achievable. It's pretty rare though.

 

The staffing push will probably suppress premium pay quite a bit going forward.

 

100 hours a month is pretty easy to do, even in the slow months. Yeah, you work for it, but it’s available if you want it.

It’s the summer months where things get interesting. Chaos breeds opportunities. Sometimes lots of opportunities.

I’d say 120-150 is pretty typical, and I’ve even broken 200 once. Granted, that month might have been a fluke, but I know guys who are centrally located in Florida; they Y list themselves for FLL, RSW, TPA, MCO and their phone don’t stop ringing. 220+ on more than one occasion. Supposedly ACY has one of these guys as well. PHL, EWR, LGA, and ACY all fall under his 3 hour driving radius...

Increased staffing has been brought up, and indeed that might affect things moving forward; at this point it’s too early to tell because Guitar Hero didn’t start properly staffing this airline until after the summer crush. So with that in mind, I’d be happy to revise my original statement; while my W2 was well north of $250k, moving forward I’d say ballpark of $250k is readily achievable on fifth year pay.

And that doesn’t even factor in the DC, should one choose to include that number into their calculations.

Living in base, or close to multiple Spirit destinations, makes all the difference in the world. If you call Billings Montana home, not so much.

 

I was well north of $250k last year and that of course included the signing bonus. So for 2019 I figured “hey, if I can make $200k, since no bonus, that would be easy to do”

Based on this last months credit, which will be the last month of credit earned for 2019, my $200k goal is looking to settle at $280k

But how....how is that possible, show me the math?!

Same as mentioned before. We had a few months of summer x list calls. So averaging 100+ a month isn’t hard when you have a few months on 170 and 180.

Next year I’ll say “ok, staffing won’t be as short, so $225k would be a nice number”. But the one thing I know about Spirit, the next meltdown is just around the corner. So I won’t be shocked if in 1 year I’m saying “well north of $250k and knocking on $300k”