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Old 01-23-2023 | 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris
Luckily the JB group outnumbers those 2/3's when it becomes JCBA time.
Didn't they vote in the NEA for a small raise? I honestly don't know the details, but in all of the merger chats I was in, they were hoping that Spirit pilots would be stronger in negotiations.
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Old 01-23-2023 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by JulesWinfield
Didn't they vote in the NEA for a small raise? I honestly don't know the details, but in all of the merger chats I was in, they were hoping that Spirit pilots would be stronger in negotiations.
I’m glad someone said it.
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Old 01-23-2023 | 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by JulesWinfield
Didn't they vote in the NEA for a small raise? I honestly don't know the details, but in all of the merger chats I was in, they were hoping that Spirit pilots would be stronger in negotiations.
Who got legacy snap up in their TA again I forget?
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Old 01-23-2023 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by JulesWinfield
Didn't they vote in the NEA for a small raise? I honestly don't know the details, but in all of the merger chats I was in, they were hoping that Spirit pilots would be stronger in negotiations.
A better comparison would be to look at the two focused TAs that were released within a month of each other. That should give you a better idea of what is acceptable to each pilot group, assuming their TA passes next week.
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Old 01-23-2023 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by SSlow
A better comparison would be to look at the two focused TAs that were released within a month of each other. That should give you a better idea of what is acceptable to each pilot group, assuming their TA passes next week.
two different management teams. Glad we’ll soon enough be governed by a management that values their pilots.
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Old 01-23-2023 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by ZooKeeper
two different management teams. Glad we’ll soon enough be governed by a management that values their pilots.
Ummmm.....who wants to tell him?
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Old 01-23-2023 | 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by BunkerF16
Ummmm.....who wants to tell him?
lol exactly if you think any pilot group has made more gains than others just because their management has more "goodness in their hearts" then others I got some bad news for you Jack.

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Old 01-23-2023 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by BunkerF16
Ummmm.....who wants to tell him?
Did your management wrongfully sue your pilot group? Has your management acknowledged that pay will have to keep pace to stem attrition?
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Old 01-23-2023 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by BunkerF16
Ummmm.....who wants to tell him?
Made me laugh, no doubt.

While I know why you said this, and agree... I do at least think JB management is a little more realistic about the current market for pilots than NK management, and seem to be at least minimally more forward looking at the comp required to staff the company and at least have a chance at staffing for their growth plans. NK seems to have just given up entirely when it comes to competing (with money) for enough meat in the seats.

Still, your point is valid. NK dudes, make sure you temper your expectations and mentally prepare for a hell of a fight to get all we will deserve as the fifth largest passenger airline (and not a ULCC), a full service airline with lie-flat business class seating, a growing transatlantic operation, and the group that holds the keys to the single operating certificate.
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Old 01-23-2023 | 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by CLE to IAH
at least two days
thanks, I’ll hold off on submitting my application then. Still waiting on my new passport to get here.
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