Jet blue wants us now
06-16-2022 | 08:52 AM
#1341
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This should be an indication how things will go with Frontier ownership in a JCBA. Anyone that prefers that deal over JB should just go apply at Mesa bc that’s how this is going to go if we end up with frontier. JB isn’t just going to throw stacks at us without a negotiation but indigo is 100% going to use ever trick in the book to stall and fight tooth and nail to keep us the lowest compensated. It took a strike last time and it took spirit getting a crummy contract in 2018 for frontier management to even start negotiating to essentially only match what we had at the bottom of the industry.
We had a JB jumpseater the other day. Totally agree. Their contract, as is, is a lot better than ours in many ways. I think we only benefit from having JetBlue. People who want frontier just don’t see the path forward with JetBlue, so it makes them nervous.
06-16-2022 | 08:53 AM
#1342
On Reserve
Joined: Mar 2017
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I tried breaking the clip mechanism off, threading a keyring through the loop of the main lanyard, and clipping the holder on that. Still some annoying thing dangling around my neck.
06-16-2022 | 09:01 AM
#1343
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This should be an indication how things will go with Frontier ownership in a JCBA. Anyone that prefers that deal over JB should just go apply at Mesa bc that’s how this is going to go if we end up with frontier. JB isn’t just going to throw stacks at us without a negotiation but indigo is 100% going to use ever trick in the book to stall and fight tooth and nail to keep us the lowest compensated. It took a strike last time and it took spirit getting a crummy contract in 2018 for frontier management to even start negotiating to essentially only match what we had at the bottom of the industry.
06-16-2022 | 09:09 AM
#1344
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Just so you know…you don’t instantly go on their contract once you merge. You have to have a 3 party negotiation with the company, Spirit ALPA and JB ALPA. My guess is that JB ALPA isn’t going to just agree to get no contract gains so that Spirit pilots can all be moved up to a better contract. So its going to be a long negotiation. Also the company will not really want to have any work rule or pay improvements so they will just filibuster as long as they can. I’d be shocked if it was less than 5 years to get a new contract. By then everyone will have a chance to go to a Legacy that will already have new contracts.
06-16-2022 | 09:33 AM
#1345
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Just so you know…you don’t instantly go on their contract once you merge. You have to have a 3 party negotiation with the company, Spirit ALPA and JB ALPA. My guess is that JB ALPA isn’t going to just agree to get no contract gains so that Spirit pilots can all be moved up to a better contract. So its going to be a long negotiation. Also the company will not really want to have any work rule or pay improvements so they will just filibuster as long as they can. I’d be shocked if it was less than 5 years to get a new contract. By then everyone will have a chance to go to a Legacy that will already have new contracts.
06-16-2022 | 09:47 AM
#1346
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Just so you know…you don’t instantly go on their contract once you merge. You have to have a 3 party negotiation with the company, Spirit ALPA and JB ALPA. My guess is that JB ALPA isn’t going to just agree to get no contract gains so that Spirit pilots can all be moved up to a better contract. So its going to be a long negotiation. Also the company will not really want to have any work rule or pay improvements so they will just filibuster as long as they can. I’d be shocked if it was less than 5 years to get a new contract. By then everyone will have a chance to go to a Legacy that will already have new contracts.
06-16-2022 | 10:10 AM
#1348
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Do we get a new lanyard with the merger?
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06-16-2022 | 10:36 AM
#1349
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From: A320 CA
Might want to slow your roll there chief. My perusing though your contract hasn't shown me anything I'd consider "better", Section 3 rates being the slim exception (at my longevity anyway), and y'all had to go through a contentious NEA TA to get to even those. Our red/green alone is worth it's weight...
06-16-2022 | 11:22 AM
#1350
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Just so you know…you don’t instantly go on their contract once you merge. You have to have a 3 party negotiation with the company, Spirit ALPA and JB ALPA. My guess is that JB ALPA isn’t going to just agree to get no contract gains so that Spirit pilots can all be moved up to a better contract. So its going to be a long negotiation. Also the company will not really want to have any work rule or pay improvements so they will just filibuster as long as they can. I’d be shocked if it was less than 5 years to get a new contract. By then everyone will have a chance to go to a Legacy that will already have new contracts.
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