What does this mean? Pilot side, does business model matter at all to us (besides personal views of how successful a ULCC can be)? No matter who our partner is, someone is still changing manuals, planes are getting repainted and refitted, etc. But aside from that I don’t think NK B6 F9 fly much differently and as far as I know we don’t fly differently based on business model.

And why is there more leverage with ulccx2 vs JetBlue in negotiations? I don’t see any greater “advantage” to one or the other. Both require a jcba, and contrary to popular belief, the bigger pilot group doesn’t “control” the vote. The common theme among all 3 groups during this entire process has been for a great contract.

 

"ohh you dont like getting kicked out of base and being acquired by management with a terrible reputation, just go somewhere else"


I came to spirit so that I could drive to work and spend more time with my family (QOL) with the added benefit that everybody I work with is pretty cool, and I put up with everything else for those two things. Frontier will close my base and I will lose both of them. Jetblue MIGHT not.

And I dont know why you think they have any urgency to merge operations giving us leverage with the JCBA. Financially it makes no difference how long spirit and frontier stay separate since, as you said, the models are so similar. They can stall negotiations as long as they want while waiting for a recession to force concessions.

 

Which bases would F9 close?

 

ORD quicker than a dress coming off on prom night.

 

ORD for sure. Most likely DTW and DFW as well. Talking to friends in all three bases and they pretty much just fly to florida or vegas first leg and then do the rest of the trip out of there.

 

Sorry your morals are thru the floor.. might wanna work on that ..

however Morale at spirit really is pretty decent.. Atleast amongst my friends and the peeps I fly with.

if, as a combined company 5 years from now we aren’t making a profit then I doubt anyone will be. We still have some of the lowest CASM out there.

and JetBlue is certainly hiring .. just keep in mind almost their entire route structure is in ‘hurricane country’ and ‘snow storm’ country. Better get that logbook up to date ..

 

I've been pretty happy with the airline for the last 5 years or so, the 4 years b3fore that were a quality of life decision waiting on a new contract and to see how the airline changed as it grew. Now that I've seen a dramatic and noticeable shift in how the airline is being run since the merger has been announced, in addition to knowing from many friends with a similar length tenure at f9 and how they are treated as well as how the operation runs, I'm greatly concerned for our futures. I don't thing this is going to be a good thing for pilots or the general flying public! My logbook is updated and internal recc's elsewhere are ready to go should things deteriorate the way I except them to. I'm going to see what happens but don't blame almost every FO I fly with who are looking for another job, have another job, or interviews scheduled.

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you guys crack me up. "sorry your getting f'd, have you tried smiling a little?"

Are you being purposely dense or is it just a mistake of birth? I have been perfectly happy for the last 2 years, i am referencing the new company.

 

 

not trying to be a prick but choosing a airline because they have a base in the city you want to live isn’t the companies fault. Your putting the cart before the horse