New Jetblue wants us thread
07-08-2022 | 08:46 PM
#91
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not new, 6 years…. Just saying JB would have to change a lot overnight for that not to happen. It’s a NE airline, it’s valid to worry about them not changing their entire structure just because they buy someone who has different bases. Are you new?
07-08-2022 | 09:09 PM
#93
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07-08-2022 | 09:27 PM
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Why would they spend cash on airplanes and 3000 pilots to stuff them where they’re already operating? They say they want spirit to expand across the US. This makes sense.
07-08-2022 | 09:48 PM
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Frontier management is the wolf in wolf’s clothing. This Spirit thing is going nowhere anymore. The experiment is over. The entire ULCC thing was to get big enough and cause enough of a stink to get merged or acquired. Frontier management doesn’t mind it bc they will do everything possible to keep you down while siphoning the savings off into their own pockets. They don’t really care about running an airline. It’s a money laundering Ponzi scheme for them.
07-09-2022 | 03:34 AM
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or anyone who lives west of Florida…. Nobody who lives on the west coast or Midwest wants B6 because that’s not their game and there is zero guarantee that B6 keeps any of NK’s Midwest or west bases. Not saying JB isn’t a much better product or that they won’t expand west but there isn’t any proof that people outside of Boston, NY and FL will have a real life if that deal goes through.
But hey go apply at frontier after this is over if it makes you feel better
07-09-2022 | 03:47 AM
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or anyone who lives west of Florida…. Nobody who lives on the west coast or Midwest wants B6 because that’s not their game and there is zero guarantee that B6 keeps any of NK’s Midwest or west bases. Not saying JB isn’t a much better product or that they won’t expand west but there isn’t any proof that people outside of Boston, NY and FL will have a real life if that deal goes through.
1. pilots
2. aircraft
3. route expansion (Robin said it would take 7 years to grow to what the combined airline will be)
07-09-2022 | 04:05 AM
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Changing a lot overnight is one of the main reasons JB is pursuing Spirit. They want an immediate and significant diversification of their current route structure. Thinking they're going to acquire Spirit only to shove them all into BOS/JFK/EWR because they're a "NE airline" is an asinine take. So no, it's not valid to worry about them changing their structure. They're going to expand their current structure. Will there be growing pains? Of course, but this has been done dozens of time before. I'm sure they'll be just fine and that most of NK's hubs will remain.
07-09-2022 | 04:34 AM
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B6 is not far from it's maximum size in BOS/NYC. More NYC slots are virtually impossible to obtain, and there is very little gate space to be further acquired in BOS. The base sizes will grow marginally over the coming years as 3 man crews to Europe are needed, and there is some BOS build out still to happen, but that's about it. 3,000 additional pilots literally HAVE to be based outside of the NE. It's not even a choice.
Their stated intention is spread the brand nationally, and they KNOW they need a more national footprint of pilot bases to attract and retain pilots.
Their stated intention is spread the brand nationally, and they KNOW they need a more national footprint of pilot bases to attract and retain pilots.
07-09-2022 | 04:35 AM
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I think all of NK bases remain, (ACY withstanding), because on the map, it’s exactly what JBLU says they want. They now have a presence in all areas of the country, allowing them to operate in the major hubs while
not having to rely on a hub and spoke legacy model.
To say JBLU is a northeast airline would be to call SWA a Texas airline back in the day, you get bigger and things change. Delta was a southern airline until I became a northern airline as well, and then a west coast airline, snd then “the” NY airline.
not having to rely on a hub and spoke legacy model.
To say JBLU is a northeast airline would be to call SWA a Texas airline back in the day, you get bigger and things change. Delta was a southern airline until I became a northern airline as well, and then a west coast airline, snd then “the” NY airline.
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