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Old 09-01-2025 | 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by JulesWinfield
Hang in there. United and American just stated hiring again, and plan to do big numbers for the duration.
I also earnestly believe and hope that you will have a soft landing at AA or UA Flat408 and even though you’re staring down the barrel right now the flood gates are about to open again
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Old 09-01-2025 | 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Avro85
With only 10 years seniority, a guy will be lucky to not get furloughed the next round.
that’s incorrect, unless they furloughed 1,500+ people in that one bid. Nice try though
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Old 09-01-2025 | 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Jdub2
Point taken, I was only thinking of top two thirds and I did not consider those with less time. I have been furloughed and although it was short it was extremely unpleasant, as you accurately described, to be short on time and essentially gatekept from improving my situation while those senior to me vacuumed up every minute of open time to gorge themselves. Endless and pointless short calls stuck at a crashpad grind the soul
I would hope that y’all have a clause in your contract limiting the amount of flying that can be done by any one pilot if anyone is on furlough. Also don’t be the guy picking up opentime when your fellow union members are on the street.

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Old 09-01-2025 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by terks43
I would hope that y’all have a clause in your contract limiting the amount of flying that can be done by any one pilot if anyone is on furlough. Also don’t be the guy picking up opentime when your fellow union members are ok the street.
Yeah, that ain’t happening…for both points. As guys get displaced from their bases, they will drop their trios and gobble up any remaining open time in their previous home base. They will justify it and say “I’m swapping, not picking up,” but clearing out open time just the same.

That being said, these furloughed pilots aren’t getting recalled. Let’s be real, and more furloughs are to come. This isn’t the same as a recession where all airlines are hurting and furloughing; this is different.

Any NK guys on here picking up open time? And swapping is still picking up open time. Just curious.
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Old 09-01-2025 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by JulesWinfield
Hang in there. United and American just stated hiring again, and plan to do big numbers for the duration.
Delta should be pumping out some large numbers starting late this year or early next year. Granted a lot of those initial classes have already been interviewed and are sitting in the pool, but they have also started sending out assessment invites (first step in the interview process) so hopefully we'll grab as many as we can who want to leave Spirit for here.
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Old 09-01-2025 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by tennisguru
Delta should be pumping out some large numbers starting late this year or early next year. Granted a lot of those initial classes have already been interviewed and are sitting in the pool, but they have also started sending out assessment invites (first step in the interview process) so hopefully we'll grab as many as we can who want to leave Spirit for here.
Delta’s not hiring for the rest of the year and pushed back the 2026 #’s….
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Old 09-01-2025 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Popeye0537
Delta’s not hiring for the rest of the year and pushed back the 2026 #’s….
I've not heard anything confirming no early 2026 hires. We are sending out assessment invites right now. People in the pool have been getting their background check and drug screens current. Everything points to hiring next year. One rumor was that network posted an operations plan for summer 2026 and flight ops couldn't meet it, which may mean hiring starting even late this year.

But this is a Spirit thread so I won't post any more on this. Either way if someone wants out then they should be shotgunning their apps everywhere, Delta included. Good luck to everyone.
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Old 09-01-2025 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by ImSoSuss
bro this ain't 1960 anymore. Get over it
The profession hasn’t changed that much since the 60s (from a macro viewpoint)……



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Old 09-01-2025 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Flat408
Im one of them , running out of options and not sure what to do . I even applied for direct entry Captain spots at the regionals and don’t hear anything back .
My buddy that’s a Checkairman at United said they plan to hire between 2000-2500 next year depending on aircraft deliveries. American is actively hiring right now and I’ve heard over a thousand next year, same with Delta. Maybe an American or Delta guy in here can confirm. SWA is hiring 140 in November and December mostly out of CJO’s previously handed out in late 23-24. Rumor is maybe 600 next year. Hang in there brother. I’ve met several Spirt pilots and they were all solid dudes. Hoping everyone there has a soft landing somewhere.
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Old 09-01-2025 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ImSoSuss
The workforce as a whole has changed. And no, we are not Blue Collar but the lines between the two aren't necessarily black and white anymore like it was in the past. But glad some geezer who wrote a book 50 years ago is telling us different.
We’re no less labor/blue collar than those who flew the line 50 years ago. In fact, 50 years ago airline deregulation had yet to occur and airline pilots enjoyed a relatively lofty existence in public perception. The 80s taught our profession painful lessons, a comeuppance. But please keep your head in the sand (and your head up a dark cavity) and believe you enjoy wages and working conditions commensurate with your gifts to aviation, rather than the hard work and solidarity of your fellow pilots and their predecessors. With any luck your contemporaries won’t be as foolish and disrespectful.
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