Spirt filed for Chapter 11 again
09-09-2025 | 07:31 AM
#171
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I’ve never seen such nonsense and fear-mongering. The idea that Spirit can claw back your normal paycheck is just not true. I asked ChatGPT about this and it flat-out disagrees with what’s being said here.
Bottom line: your regular wages for trips you’ve flown are protected in bankruptcy. Once that money hits your account, it’s yours. The clawback rules in the Bankruptcy Code are for weird one-off pre-petition stuff like bonuses, severance, or insider payments. Not your paycheck.
Bottom line: your regular wages for trips you’ve flown are protected in bankruptcy. Once that money hits your account, it’s yours. The clawback rules in the Bankruptcy Code are for weird one-off pre-petition stuff like bonuses, severance, or insider payments. Not your paycheck.
It has happened before, and it will happen again. No legal consequences on them, they just claim "misunderstanding" or "clerical error", and the court will sort it out. Eventually.
09-09-2025 | 07:40 AM
#172
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Even if the law say's they "can't", doesn't mean they "won't". Sketch stuff happens all the time, and some clerk at a bank somewhere only does what they're told. I guarantee you that a long dissertation of bankruptcy law does not ensue.
Sure, even if they're not supposed to, have fun with the 2-3 year process of showing them they're wrong, and then actually getting the money back. It's MUCH easier to deal with if you have the money. Heck you can't get banks to move even when you have 100% of the law on your side with documents to prove it.
Moving money out of your ACH account is the modern equivalent of running to the bank at pay day to cash your pay check.
09-09-2025 | 07:57 AM
#173
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Also if I had a lot of sick, and a side hustle (or could get a job), I'd be burning that and making money on the side. Or interview prep, interviews whatever.
Maybe FMLA, whatever, Get that bunion that's been bothering you taken care of.
At this point I might prefer outside work, as opposed to say company overtime hustle... I'd hate to rack up a lot of OT and then have them decide to suspend payroll the day before payday.
No talking about it is not an illegal work action, and there's point in them suing the MEC of a defunct airline (can't sue ALPA national, they're the support staff of an association, not a legal RLA "union").
Maybe FMLA, whatever, Get that bunion that's been bothering you taken care of.
At this point I might prefer outside work, as opposed to say company overtime hustle... I'd hate to rack up a lot of OT and then have them decide to suspend payroll the day before payday.
No talking about it is not an illegal work action, and there's point in them suing the MEC of a defunct airline (can't sue ALPA national, they're the support staff of an association, not a legal RLA "union").
09-09-2025 | 08:58 AM
#175
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Also if I had a lot of sick, and a side hustle (or could get a job), I'd be burning that and making money on the side. Or interview prep, interviews whatever.
Maybe FMLA, whatever, Get that bunion that's been bothering you taken care of.
At this point I might prefer outside work, as opposed to say company overtime hustle... I'd hate to rack up a lot of OT and then have them decide to suspend payroll the day before payday.
No talking about it is not an illegal work action, and there's point in them suing the MEC of a defunct airline (can't sue ALPA national, they're the support staff of an association, not a legal RLA "union").
Maybe FMLA, whatever, Get that bunion that's been bothering you taken care of.
At this point I might prefer outside work, as opposed to say company overtime hustle... I'd hate to rack up a lot of OT and then have them decide to suspend payroll the day before payday.
No talking about it is not an illegal work action, and there's point in them suing the MEC of a defunct airline (can't sue ALPA national, they're the support staff of an association, not a legal RLA "union").
We don't need anymore problems here lol
09-09-2025 | 08:59 AM
#176
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Also, if you’re thinking about buying a house, or building one; you might want to close on the loan sooner than later. It might be more difficult to close on the loan if you lose the job or start over at United.
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09-09-2025 | 09:38 AM
#177
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09-09-2025 | 09:49 AM
#178
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Yes I understand. But simply talking about maximizing use of your personal benefit entitlements, for that purpose alone, isn't the same as a coordinated work action to convince the company to behave or negotiate differently. I think they have bigger fish to fry. At least as I see it.
Apologies on the confusion, but the original post that I was referencing was suggesting that NK pilots should start no showing flights are some point. That is not a great thing to be posting about here IMO.
09-09-2025 | 09:59 AM
#179
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