Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot

Say what???

Enough with the constant politicking. Much of the reason I enjoy being a pilot is I don't have to deal with office politics. Wait for a TA. If that TA takes to long, punch out. If the TA is unsatisfactory then vote no. I have faith that most of our pilot group knows what the market rate is for airbus pilots is in 2015. If it gets ratified and you still think it's unsatisfactory, punch out. If we as a whole think it's unsatisfactory then it won't be ratified and then we can either wait or request our reps implement new negotiators.

As of now we have seen nothing but emails from the NC that clearly show they know what the market is for airbus pilots today. Calling for heads to roll based on something that happened five years ago is just silly. Not all of the NC is the same guys. Give it a rest and start speaking with a unified voice or get out of the way.

To add: all this drama over who the MEC officers are is just stupid. They don't vote and are just a mouthpiece. I really couldn't care less who they are or what "regime" is in place. They are about as important as a talking head on a 24hr news station. They just relay messages. We need to focus voting yes or no to a new contract and speak with a unified voice. This playground BS needs to stop.

Originally Posted by Android

I guess you are not aware the Hann and Poletti have already inquired at ALPA National into bringing up Ackerman on charges and removing him from his position. That would destabilized our MEC and delay our chances for securing a contract.

I suggest we support our reps and the MEC.

Originally Posted by Android

I guess you are not aware the Hann and Poletti have already inquired at ALPA National into bringing up Ackerman on charges and removing him from his position. That would destabilized our MEC and delay our chances for securing a contract.

I suggest we support our reps and the MEC.

Originally Posted by Mizzen wizzen

See if I've got this straight, removing the previous MEC chair and vice chair as we head into negotiations, good, and would not destabilize things. Removing the new MEC as we head into negotiations, bad, and would destabilize things. I think I've got it now.

If the previous MEC leadership was acting inappropriately and not following the LEC leadership, then they were removed accordingly. If the current MEC leadership acted inappropriately then they should be removed too. Any inquiries to ALPA National are just that, inquiries, no? If there's nothing there, then one would assume they have nothing to fear and they would welcome investigation to clear their name?

Sounds like you'd like sunlight shown on MEC folks you didn't like but you want cover ups on MEC people you do like. We need leadership in these positions that will look out for ALL pilots and be above reproach in all their actions. If leadership can't pull that off then show them the door. With all the accusations of LEC/MEC reps handing information directly to management, this NEEDS to be sorted out.

Wizz

Originally Posted by Audi2000

Just remember if Hann and Polletti are going to ALPA to bring up charges I will have to bring Polletti up on charges as well for his physical threats and his online lies and slander against me while enjoying his union protection. We have the IP addresses thanks to APC, so I say let the investigations flow, let the truth come out. My attorney also has two sworn depositions from two other pilots here at Spirit regarding this issue. I was willing to let it go in the name of "moving on" and "unity" but if the thug mentality is going to prevail, then I will have no choice than to pursue relief as well.

Originally Posted by Audi2000

Just remember if Hann and Polletti are going to ALPA to bring up charges I will have to bring Polletti up on charges as well for his physical threats and his online lies and slander against me while enjoying his union protection. We have the IP addresses thanks to APC, so I say let the investigations flow, let the truth come out. My attorney also has two sworn depositions from two other pilots here at Spirit regarding this issue. I was willing to let it go in the name of "moving on" and "unity" but if the thug mentality is going to prevail, then I will have no choice than to pursue relief as well.

Originally Posted by falcon2000aj

Pretty professional our P2P leader is comparing BB and Bendo visiting ALPA with Nazis and Slaves and such on his FB page! This dude needs to step down!

Originally Posted by ShopVac

Prozak? Has he EVER done anything positive to help our pilot group? We just dont need his anger and poor attitude!