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Old 05-29-2015 | 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Plane Ramrod
Did I read this last update correctly?

They are actually considering spending bargaining capital on getting the company to restrict out of base pickups? YGBFSM
I don't care if people pick up out of base and certainly won't restrict via giving something up. Everyone just needs to make sure they participate in the survey.


I also think they worded it in a very smart way. They are letting every know that if you want to limit Out of Base Open time P/U, it will have to be negotiated, so think loooonnggg and hard if you want to waste everyone's time & money pursuing such foolishness
Old 05-29-2015 | 07:48 AM
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Not sure I understand why picking something up out of base is such an issue over there. At my current airline we have no restrictions on that. That flexibility seems to be more helpful than hurtful for the pilot group more often than not. Especially when you are a commuter and a trip out of a different base might work better. Seems a little short sided to me unless there are specific issues that Spirit has with that that are unique....
Old 05-29-2015 | 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Froggy
Not sure I understand why picking something up out of base is such an issue over there. At my current airline we have no restrictions on that. That flexibility seems to be more helpful than hurtful for the pilot group more often than not. Especially when you are a commuter and a trip out of a different base might work better. Seems a little short sided to me unless there are specific issues that Spirit has with that that are unique....
The specific, unique issue we have is a couple of very vocal pilots got the ear of their not so bright union reps who agreed that out of base pickups were a bad idea. Now those reps want to waste negotiating capital to restrict it.
Old 05-29-2015 | 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Judge Smails
The specific, unique issue we have is a couple of very vocal pilots got the ear of their not so bright union reps who agreed that out of base pickups were a bad idea. Now those reps want to waste negotiating capital to restrict it.
Maybe I'm missing something but I was not under the impression that the majority Rep was in favor of this?

I'm not even sure Jason came out and specifically stated he was in favor?
Old 05-29-2015 | 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by JoeyMeatballs
Maybe I'm missing something but I was not under the impression that the majority Rep was in favor of this?

I'm not even sure Jason came out and specifically stated he was in favor?
Maybe I'm mistaken, but how does this even make it to the table without some sort of union support?
Old 05-29-2015 | 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Judge Smails
Maybe I'm mistaken, but how does this even make it to the table without some sort of union support?
Well, they tabled it, which is where resolutions usually go to die
Old 05-29-2015 | 08:40 AM
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I'm not a fan of the open time resolution and I will say "EFF THAT" as well. However, what the Union is doing is giving you a chance to voice your opinion.

So instead of *****ing about it on here, voice your opinion and move on, already have spoken to Ackerman about it and it has zero support of getting voted in.

So all relax before you all stroke out
Old 05-29-2015 | 08:47 AM
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The issue is the imbalance in pilots who currently live in FLL. With quick upgrades come imbalances that should eventually work themselves out. LAS is our current junior CA base, DFW is probably next, but an overwhelming number of CAs live in FLL, what's happening are CAs are dropping their whole lines and then living off picking up open time in FLL. Since the contract and FLICA allow this, I don't see a problem. THe very senior CAs are complaining because they can't drop and pick up at will, since open time is a first come, first serve deal. This is only a FLL issue, but any change would have to be done system wide. And, it would affect everyone. The senior CAs already have it good, just fly the line you're awarded, pick up open time like the rest of us and quit whining. Have I got the gist of it right? Since I don't live in base, I wasn't able to attend the union meeting where this resolution on open time was introduced, but unless everyone wants to limit their options, this should be voted down. dont forget too the strict enforcement of picking up open time within two days via FLICA was a result of this complaint.
Old 05-29-2015 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Freightcowboy

So all relax before you all stroke out
Hey man, if the window lickers want to put on their tin foil hats and stroke out on here, we really shouldn't stand in their way.
Old 05-29-2015 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Metal Slug
Hey man, if the window lickers want to put on their tin foil hats and stroke out on here, we really shouldn't stand in their way.

I see your point it might advance us up the list. Lol
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