Spirit of NKS
06-29-2015 | 07:23 PM
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How about those 6 days on! love those. 4 days off is the wrong battle to fight in my opinion. I think we would be far better to focus on the trip and duty rigs to maximize pay and minimize time at work. Max of 4 days on on with an average of three a la Southwest...your gonna get your for days off, or more.
06-29-2015 | 07:56 PM
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SWA can have 16 days off, but what if you 3 days on, then 5 days off, 1 day on, 1 day off, 2 days on, 5 days off, 3 days on, 1 day off, 2 days on, 4 days off, 3 days on. That's 30 days total, 16 days off. Not great for a commuter like me. I'll keep those four days off minimum thank you very much.
06-30-2015 | 05:54 AM
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I share your sentiments about the hassle in life it would be to start over at yet another airline, interview, ground, sim etc. However, if one doesn't take a black/white, look at the worst case scenario of the intent of the post....Spirit needs us, their shareholders need us, their wallets and financial futures need us, WE are earning THEM more than any other competitor in our widget industry. Our focus should be having them defend why that relationship of their return off of our skill, lacks the corresponding valuing of the us the widget, as in other shareholders/product relationships. We should not be defending our want, THEY should be defending why they should make so much profit, and invest so little in the product. And then we should sit back, quietly wait, and let them work themselves out of the discomfort of the hypocrisy of the relationship which exists between their enormous gains and our industry trailing compensation package. Leaving the ship is quite a leap without allowing a negotiation discourse to take its course.
06-30-2015 | 06:39 AM
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I share your sentiments about the hassle in life it would be to start over at yet another airline, interview, ground, sim etc. However, if one doesn't take a black/white, look at the worst case scenario of the intent of the post....Spirit needs us, their shareholders need us, their wallets and financial futures need us, WE are earning THEM more than any other competitor in our widget industry. Our focus should be having them defend why that relationship of their return off of our skill, lacks the corresponding valuing of the us the widget, as in other shareholders/product relationships. We should not be defending our want, THEY should be defending why they should make so much profit, and invest so little in the product. And then we should sit back, quietly wait, and let them work themselves out of the discomfort of the hypocrisy of the relationship which exists between their enormous gains and our industry trailing compensation package. Leaving the ship is quite a leap without allowing a negotiation discourse to take its course.
You answered your own question I think. The goal of any business is to make maximum profit. They are able to do this by cutting costs in every category including pilots. They won't pay us more until they HAVE to
06-30-2015 | 06:54 AM
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They aren't paying any less than everybody else for fuel, brake assemblies, etc. They treat you like a mechanical part or a consumable, act like one.
06-30-2015 | 07:53 AM
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http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2015/06/29/spirit-airlines-incorporated-is-ready-for-takeoff.aspx
06-30-2015 | 07:58 AM
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I couldn't agree with you more.....in principle however
I don't think that matters. Oh I agree. Stop helping period. Next time there is a meltdown, which will be soon enough, we need to let them step on their own cranks. Period
06-30-2015 | 08:24 AM
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One hundred percent correct. No more help, fly the contract.
06-30-2015 | 08:40 AM
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Why do we have pilots answering phones in scheduling and what is incentivizing them to do it? I've also heard reports these pilots harassing their fellow pilots that call in with an issue. ***!
06-30-2015 | 09:59 AM
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Next meltdown will be next week. Tons of open time, I'm going fishing. Let it burn!
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