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Old 09-08-2015, 05:47 AM   #13621  
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Am I the only one that hates the ORD layover? Seriously.. A 30 hour layover in Rosemont? Sweet. I'm so pumped to go grab dinner at Toby Keith's bar and grill I can hardly stand it. On a side note, every single first year Great Lakes BE1900 FO is making $112 in holiday pay today. 100% of NK pilots are making $0 in holiday pay today.

Hate that one almost as bad as dtw


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Am I the only one that hates the ORD layover? Seriously.. A 30 hour layover in Rosemont? Sweet. I'm so pumped to go grab dinner at Toby Keith's bar and grill I can hardly stand it. On a side note, every single first year Great Lakes BE1900 FO is making $112 in holiday pay today. 100% of NK pilots are making $0 in holiday pay today.
I like the ORD layover. To each, his own.
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Am I the only one that hates the ORD layover? Seriously.. A 30 hour layover in Rosemont? Sweet. I'm so pumped to go grab dinner at Toby Keith's bar and grill I can hardly stand it. On a side note, every single first year Great Lakes BE1900 FO is making $112 in holiday pay today. 100% of NK pilots are making $0 in holiday pay today.
I guess so. I like the ORD layover in Rosemont. Don't hang out in Rosemont for 30 hours if you don't like it there. There's plenty of places and options to go in Chicago. Start by asking the ORD based FAs if you don't have any ideas.

I don't hang around the hotel in IAH or LAX either. Both have plenty of options and places and things to do that are not around the area of the hotel.

DTW is harder. I haven't figured out how to get away from the hotel.
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It may, or may not, have been a mistake to not get a compensation agreement in writing prior to allowing the release. The truth is it's impossible for us to tell if the release is helping us with negotiations or not. You can arm chair quarterback our leadership all you want, but nothing comes of this but division and hostility. Some of you guys seem like you want the pilot group to be divided. I thought that was managements job?

Our leadership will get a chance to be judged dependent on the quality of the TA they bring us. If it is a poor TA, we should react and remove and replace. But until then, what good does the constant undermining do for us as a pilot group?
I'm clearly not a fan but not intended to be divisive, just holding our leadership to be responsible for their actions and statements. Follow through with something and I'll support it, but all I've seen is lip service from the MEC. Our committees are excellent in there respective roles and I greatly appreciate everyone of them, and point it out here. It's more than just a TA to measure success, day to day actions matter too![
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I guess so. I like the ORD layover in Rosemont. Don't hang out in Rosemont for 30 hours if you don't like it there. There's plenty of places and options to go in Chicago. Start by asking the ORD based FAs if you don't have any ideas.

I don't hang around the hotel in IAH or LAX either. Both have plenty of options and places and things to do that are not around the area of the hotel.

DTW is harder. I haven't figured out how to get away from the hotel.
The contract says we are supposed to be downtown, and we aren't. We shouldn't have to take the van back to the airport to take an hour train ride to go downtown. We should all be complaining.
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Old 09-08-2015, 07:51 AM   #13627  
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A 30 hour layover in Rosemont? Sweet. I'm so pumped to go grab dinner at Toby Keith's bar and grill I can hardly stand it.
Couldn't agree more. We really should be downtown.

But until that happens?

Christ, the Blue Line stop is only a 10 minute walk. In 20 minutes you could get off at Logan Square, and grab some amazing eats. El Cid (Mexican) and Longman & Eagle (contemporary) are two of my favorites. Or go to the California stop and stop in at Revolution Brewing. It's unlikely you'll see Olivia Wylde slinging beers there (Drinking Buddies) but the beer and the food is excellent.

If you're doing a lot of Chicago layovers, get this card.
https://www.ventrachicago.com

Personally? I can't stand Rosemont. But when life hands you lemons, add some vodka and have a good time. Luckily, you're in Chicago; Polacks make THE BEST vodka.

Nasdrovie!!!
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Old 09-08-2015, 08:02 AM   #13628  
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The contract says we are supposed to be downtown, and we aren't. We shouldn't have to take the van back to the airport to take an hour train ride to go downtown. We should all be complaining.
Wrong, the blue line runs 24 hours and is a 5-10 walk. From Rosemont its about 30 mins to the loop.

You do not want to be anywhere near downtown in Chicago. You think IAH has bad traffic? I just went to an appointment on the south side. Took 3 hours to get there during rush hour. The way back was still and hour and a half and it wasn't rush hour. Seriously, if you can't find something to do in 30 hours with a bowling alley, movie theater, numerous restaurants and the train within a 10 minute walk and the shuttle ride is only 10 minutes to the airport, you will never be pleased.

I forgot to mention. Ord is also a 4am bar town. Even if you get in late you will find a place that's open. The kitchen might be closed but you can always find a drink.

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Old 09-08-2015, 08:19 AM   #13629  
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I like rosemont. Van is frequent and reliable and the ride downtown would be absolutely miserable. If I want to go anywhere in Chicago then public transit or uber are both easily accessible. Maybe if I had 30+hrs I wouldn't mind going downtown but at 13:45 F that noise! If rosemont was like iah short layover I might see your point but rosemont has plenty generic America to entertain but if you want a more cultural experience you are just a short train ride away. In fact I think ORD is a good model for most layovers IMO but that's me I everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Also, I'm a family man and I come to work to make money and get a little rest in between so going out for a party isn't my MO, not that there's anything wrong with that. Let's say we did go downtown and you have 30 years left (hopefully) at this airline. How long before you've seen all you can see in (insert city) before it just becomes a long ass drive to an overnight you've seen a million times? Heck, if you are a single guy, since our rosemont location has many watering holes in close proximity and we stay at the same hotel as the flight attendants, the odds of you getting laid by a loose FA are much high than if we went downtown.

FYI the contract doesn't say downtown. It says metropolitan area and that was arbitrated to be defined as where other airlines stay if there is a dispute. If you think ORD doesn't fall in step with that then you have the right to file a grievance.

Ps. Am I the only one that gets more than a little nauseous I'm bumper to bumper traffic with a driver that pushes the gas to the floor and then slams the brakes. That's how they all seem to drive too. I get to the hotel and all I want to do is lay down because of the ride.

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I think mandatory ground training pay. iPad pay maybe?
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