Y'all having fun yet? Ahhh, I love the smell of 2010 in the morning (with a much weaker leadership aroma to it).

 

We didn't exactly have Patton and MacArthur back in 2010 either. At least they were too busy publishing JA lists and putting a spike in premium pay to sign away section 25 in it's entirety under the guise of "goodwill".

I'm going to send my mortgage company a bag of goodwill this month and see if they take it.

 

Yeah I wouldn't characterize the 2010 crew as 'strong'. The phrase 'socially inept' comes to mind??

Having said that, I'm not real pleased either with the road this newest crew is taking either. Definitely a little too friendly. I find it a little hard to criticize though when I won't step up to the plate.

We're all waiting though for your expertise to 'lead us to the promise land', flyer..... Just let us know and we'll be sure to vote for ya.

 

Huh? That makes a lot of sense, right? The burden is not on me or on anyone else, but rather on those who were elected and appointed to negotiate with the shrewd leaders of the corporation. I only have that one vote and phone/email to express my discontent at the naďveté and weakness we're all starting to see unfold.

 

Agreed. But at least, in my view, they weren't trying to blow smoke up our arses about how nice and cooperative management is. I'd never envision the "old guys" answering phones in SOC to please the COO and in exchange of goodwill. FUPM!

 

Weren't blowing smoke? YGTBSM! The same group that said if you vote no, we are in no-man's land? The same group that showed us a TA 3 weeks after we went back to work? Same group that showed their technical competence by not including a contingency in the back to work agreement about what happens if there was a no vote? Or was that planned as leverage to use against us?

 

They did blow smoke, lots of it, but it was to clearly further ALPA National's agenda.

 

So it's ok to screw over the membership to further the Mother Ship's agenda? Sounds backward to me. Then again, I'm not a fan of the new guys either. In particular the MEC chair also serving as status rep.

 

You are both correct. A320 said that they weren't blowing smoke regarding "how nice and cooperative management is", and that's true. SC and DP (especially DP) made it perfectly clear that they weren't friends with management.

And of course, Ram you are 100% correct about the MEC/NC blowing smoke about anything else.

For the peanut gallery, I leave it at this, we went on strike to make big gains, to place our contract on par with our peers. What we received from the strike was hugely disproportional to the risk we took by walking out. When the MEC/NC got called out in road shows for the inadequacy of the TA, their answer was as Ramrod states. They blew smoke up our skirts by failing to inform us that they had ALREADY legally obligated us to return to work under the TA.

When Ram talks, those of us who were here, we tend to listen!

 

What should we do? It's multiple choice.

A. Quit and go on LTD
B. Go to China and hide
C. Quit, and put SPA in receivership
D. Go to Olive Garden and complain umongst ourselves
E. Displace the LEC via base closure so you can work with snakes
F. Change the pay schedule, "to eliminate pay discrepancies" via LOA
G. Login via 9 different user names on APC and push your agenda
H. All of the above
I. ****

I vote "I"
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