Spirit of NKS
10-06-2011, 05:52 AM
#2931
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Originally Posted by Sniper
That's my point. 'The Big Front Seat' is bad enough (no room for a Delta-style fancy leg pillow), but there is ZERO leg room in coach on Spirit. Then the new 320's don't even have seats that recline!
It's hard to watch those poor CAL guys pretzel themselves, and just shameful that it has to happen. Hopefully United ALPA can kill this one.
The 'proposed' rest rules would outlaw this stuff . . . if they ever are actually adopted.
In the mean time, what does Spirit's contract say, if anything, about this issue?
It's hard to watch those poor CAL guys pretzel themselves, and just shameful that it has to happen. Hopefully United ALPA can kill this one.
The 'proposed' rest rules would outlaw this stuff . . . if they ever are actually adopted.
In the mean time, what does Spirit's contract say, if anything, about this issue?
Last edited by dn_wisconsin; 10-06-2011 at 08:09 AM.
10-06-2011, 06:49 AM
#2932
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Originally Posted by dn_wisconsin
I'm not sure if it's covered in the contract but the company did come to the union a few months ago asking about the possibility of IRO's. From what I've hear the union told them to go pound sand. I don't know any of the details or how far the talks got but that came directly from the mouth of a MEC guy I flew with last month.
Good on them if they did. I don't wanna sit in a middle seat that doesn't move when I'm supposed to be resting so I can fly back. Big front seat for me please...
10-06-2011, 07:54 AM
#2933
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Originally Posted by Plane Ramrod
Actually most of the international flying is now int'l pay. The "Great ARM international give-away of 2003" only applies to the Caribbean, Mexico and Canada.
Wasn't that "Island nations of the Caribbean"? Defined only by wikipedia no less.
10-06-2011, 02:28 PM
#2934
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The "island nations" (and reference to Latitudes) was part of an LOA that BV signed....
10-06-2011, 02:46 PM
#2935
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Originally Posted by Short Bus Drive
The "island nations" (and reference to Latitudes) was part of an LOA that BV signed....
10-06-2011, 02:52 PM
#2936
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Originally Posted by Dilbert
Good on them if they did. I don't wanna sit in a middle seat that doesn't move when I'm supposed to be resting so I can fly back. Big front seat for me please...
10-06-2011, 03:18 PM
#2937
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Originally Posted by Plane Ramrod
Well, all they released was they told the company to pound sand, would have been nice to get IRO's on our terms, with a little sweetener on the side. But I'll sleep better knowing that a potential mutual good deal was scuttled to give the MEC the satisfaction of a job not done.
10-06-2011, 03:20 PM
#2938
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Originally Posted by Plane Ramrod
Well, all they released was they told the company to pound sand, would have been nice to get IRO's on our terms, with a little sweetener on the side. But I'll sleep better knowing that a potential mutual good deal was scuttled to give the MEC the satisfaction of a job not done.
10-06-2011, 06:47 PM
#2939
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Originally Posted by Short Bus Drive
Maybe they told the company to pound sand because the company didn't offer a "little sweetener".
10-06-2011, 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Plane Ramrod
Perhaps, but a little info would go a long way.
I was the "Communications" chairman back in the day. (H.L.)
"We have to keep the pilots informed", OH "But, don't tell them THAT!"
If you don't like it , "volunteer", quit, or move on...
And that's not just to you. There is always two sides, and the truth. Rep. Dem. Bocephus, and the Media....
I TRY to keep a "neutral" ground. Or as some say. "wish-washy". But, I like to call it "open-minded".
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