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01-20-2015 | 12:01 PM
#9731
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Another thing to think about. With this loa they will combine all recurrent training into one event. For everyone outside fll recurrent has to be two separate events due to the travel days. That will go bye bye.
01-20-2015 | 12:04 PM
#9732
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Something else that has not been addressed is what will the training curriculum look like. Currently it's show up and keep a seat warm for three days and pass. I have done online training in the past and the experience has not always been positive.
01-20-2015 | 12:13 PM
#9733
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This isnt a "we dont get ipads" or "we do". The company has the ipads in a closet, paid for, and running testing on them. We vote this down and send it back to say "do better." The company knows that there is a ton of room for them to make money with these things and still increase the pay for us.
01-20-2015 | 12:52 PM
#9734
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I would accept this only if it was attached to a new and improved contract. Otherwise, I see no reason to give up a concession just so I don't have to do Jep revisions anymore.
01-20-2015 | 12:58 PM
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They really ought to save the distance training bit for contract negotiations. This quickie LOA should have been just about implementation of the efb's.
01-20-2015 | 01:23 PM
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) the only leverage THEY have on the issue - Jepp updates and having to mule charts around. Even if we get what we want (no updates) and push what they want to section 6, I'm sure, based on past practice, we will loose our a$$ in the end anyway.Now if only oil was high we could show fuel savings from the extra 20 lbs of charts each of us is carrying.
01-20-2015 | 02:48 PM
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Maybe that will be the result of a NO vote, but the company would loose (or lose for Gringo ) the only leverage THEY have on the issue - Jepp updates and having to mule charts around. Even if we get what we want (no updates) and push what they want to section 6, I'm sure, based on past practice, we will loose our a$$ in the end anyway.
Now if only oil was high we could show fuel savings from the extra 20 lbs of charts each of us is carrying.
) the only leverage THEY have on the issue - Jepp updates and having to mule charts around. Even if we get what we want (no updates) and push what they want to section 6, I'm sure, based on past practice, we will loose our a$$ in the end anyway.Now if only oil was high we could show fuel savings from the extra 20 lbs of charts each of us is carrying.
As previously mentioned in contract negotiations we may need to settle for industry average, which this seems to look like, but we can make up for this concession with higher pay or benefits elsewhere.
I'll go ahead and throw this a no vote too. I'll also send up the channels that the two issues should be separated.
01-20-2015 | 03:09 PM
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Its hard to imagine why something as simple as adding "2 floating drop days" was not added into this LOA to make up for the 2 days of duty we will be working to complete recurrent.
2 days of 5 hours pay and 2 paid float days to use anytime throughout the year would make this much more likely to pass, and probably as Yes vote from me.
Why would I do any work if I am not on duty to work? If I wanted to take my work home with me, I would have been in sales or a banker.
2 days of 5 hours pay and 2 paid float days to use anytime throughout the year would make this much more likely to pass, and probably as Yes vote from me.
Why would I do any work if I am not on duty to work? If I wanted to take my work home with me, I would have been in sales or a banker.
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