Spirit of NKS, Part II
#2241
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So from what I have gathered we lost UAL and so did Frontier......interesting....but UAL added Virgin America for ZEDS.....Is it because we (Spirit management and Frontier for that matter) was too cheap to kick in for the ZED program? If so that's going to make me more ****ed off.....
#2242
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300% into my home made slightly tune eggnog!! , 3 calls in the las 8 hrs, not even for a TA by the end of the year. Let JA take care of the sinking ship.
#2243
9 canceled flights today, 2%. Same percentage as SWA and DAL..so im not thinking the wheels are falling off.
#2244
#2245
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Using the latest seniority list (which is short about 150 pilots), assuming no departures since then...over half the VOTING seniority list is on year 5 pay or less. 15 on the chart represents 15+ years of service.

The pay slope between 2nd year and final year pay is as follows. Prop. is the latest company proposal DOS...which actually increases FO slope.

Finally, here are the % raises each longevity would receive under JB+3% and the company proposal (both at DOS) vs. current rates.

Draw your own conclusions from the above info, but whether or not a TA will pass is dependent on how it impacts that largest voting blocks. Year 2-5 vs 6 - 15+.
To be more like our peers, rates would need to become closer to average and slope for CA around 10 - 15% and for FO, 40-50%.
Again, the slopes assume 2nd year pay for both seats. 1st year pay is another issue altogether.

The pay slope between 2nd year and final year pay is as follows. Prop. is the latest company proposal DOS...which actually increases FO slope.

Finally, here are the % raises each longevity would receive under JB+3% and the company proposal (both at DOS) vs. current rates.

Draw your own conclusions from the above info, but whether or not a TA will pass is dependent on how it impacts that largest voting blocks. Year 2-5 vs 6 - 15+.
To be more like our peers, rates would need to become closer to average and slope for CA around 10 - 15% and for FO, 40-50%.
Again, the slopes assume 2nd year pay for both seats. 1st year pay is another issue altogether.
#2246
I turned down 4 jAs in the last 24 hrs..just wondering who wh4red us out. Check the JA logs...your contract awaits...
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