Spirit of NKS, Part II
09-13-2016 | 01:49 PM
#8951
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2-3 using different names, yes, but only about 10 total actively posting or viewing. I gotta run now, but good luck to us all, its going to be a long ride.
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Whatever it takes
09-13-2016 | 01:51 PM
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Spoiler alert. I spoke with the same MEC guy right after the petition came out. He was frustrated because he wanted there to be some patience. You know why? It was already in there. His exact words were I wish they would have waited another 2 weeks and waited to see what the group thought before going out and doing that.
09-13-2016 | 01:51 PM
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Can anyone post the ask?
09-13-2016 | 02:12 PM
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If I remember correctly the NC stated our biggest obstacle going forward is unity. I don't see much unity in the previous posts.
I didn't sign the petition because I thought it could create some division amongst us. Did the petition work with respect to the retro pay? I don't know.. Perhaps. Did it cause divisiveness amongst our pilots? Most likely some. I'll admit however, I am not sure if we would have just had that call and the email with our official ask if not for that petition. Maybe and maybe not. Who cares. We know where we are now and we should all be looking ahead as a unified group.
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I didn't sign the petition because I thought it could create some division amongst us. Did the petition work with respect to the retro pay? I don't know.. Perhaps. Did it cause divisiveness amongst our pilots? Most likely some. I'll admit however, I am not sure if we would have just had that call and the email with our official ask if not for that petition. Maybe and maybe not. Who cares. We know where we are now and we should all be looking ahead as a unified group.
Whatever it Takes
09-13-2016 | 02:23 PM
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If that isn't unity I don't know what unity is.
Present a contract that we deserve and it will pass. That simple.
09-13-2016 | 03:41 PM
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This is where I know the Union Leaders and NC got it wrong. We are very unified. I have not talked to one single pilot that doesn't agree that we are grossly underpaid and long overdue for a pay raise.
If that isn't unity I don't know what unity is.
Present a contract that we deserve and it will pass. That simple.
If that isn't unity I don't know what unity is.
Present a contract that we deserve and it will pass. That simple.
09-13-2016 | 03:51 PM
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Sailor, what your asking for is loyalty not unity. I think the members of this union are unified for a common purpose. We may have different ideas, but wouldn't it be nice if ideas are presented for consideration that the NC hasn't thought of?
In the flight deck we encourage our F/O's to contribute. I would never say to a First Officer, "Sit there shut up and trust me I know best."
We should encourage participation. That is also how we show support. The NC and MEC is free to say Thanks, but we will try option A first.
In the flight deck we encourage our F/O's to contribute. I would never say to a First Officer, "Sit there shut up and trust me I know best."
We should encourage participation. That is also how we show support. The NC and MEC is free to say Thanks, but we will try option A first.
09-13-2016 | 03:55 PM
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Sailor, what your asking for is loyalty not unity. I think the members of this union are unified for a common purpose. We may have different ideas, but wouldn't it be nice if ideas are presented for consideration that the NC hasn't thought of?
In the flight deck we encourage our F/O's to contribute. I would never say to a First Officer, "Sit there shut up and trust me I know best."
We should encourage participation. That is also how we show support. The NC and MEC is free to say Thanks, but we will try option A first.
In the flight deck we encourage our F/O's to contribute. I would never say to a First Officer, "Sit there shut up and trust me I know best."
We should encourage participation. That is also how we show support. The NC and MEC is free to say Thanks, but we will try option A first.
Agreed....but not 100%
Last edited by Sailor; 09-13-2016 at 04:18 PM.
09-13-2016 | 04:03 PM
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Yep, I'm done too. They can keep their 5 hours of pay.
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