Spirit of NKS, Part III
#521
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From: A320
Someone called out sick on Christmas and you're mad another pilot recovered the operation to get 178 passengers who pay your bills to their Christmas destination? You know what you signed up for and if that pilot is using one of his contractual-approved JAs? 2 threads already shut down because some just can't play nicely, wonder how long the III will go on for. It's Christmas. Hug someone you love.
#523
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From: A-320
Haha. You guys just got played by the same guy. This is why we don't talk to trolls.
He just point coonterpoited you into defending and bashing spirit simultaneously. I award none of you any points and we're all dumber for playing. Merry Christmas and let's all aim to have lives outside APC next year.
He just point coonterpoited you into defending and bashing spirit simultaneously. I award none of you any points and we're all dumber for playing. Merry Christmas and let's all aim to have lives outside APC next year.
#524
Guys, this tread is at a all time low. I blocked a few people and it really helps. To block someone, go to their profile then select view lists. There you should see ignore this user. Click that.
If you don't want to block them then do everyone else a favor and don't quote them.
Happy Festivus everyone!
If you don't want to block them then do everyone else a favor and don't quote them.
Happy Festivus everyone!
#526
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Joined: Jun 2006
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Slow down bro, he was a reserve guy pulled off a DH to fly last minute. Not sure what css was thinking to wait so long.... Big picture stuff I guess.
#527
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From: A320
Roger, CA told me a different story. Thank you for clarifying. LGA turn happened because an FO took MUP... pretty sad in our current state of negotiations.
#529
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Spirit is lacking in many ways, mostly in the compensation category. Healthcare is very good, 4 days (supposed to be 5 between pairings) is great. Pay, Long term disability, 9% match to 401k and real training, not ulcc cheapo air training all need significant improvements.
Now would I come here if I had a choice at the time between Delta, AA, United, Fedex, he'll no. I got here before any of those were doing significant hiring. Will I settle for less than I think we should get, hell no.
Spirit can afford to compensate us a hell of a lot more than they are. 5 years down the road the Spirit name will not exist. Hopefully that will happen as a result of a buyout rather than a hull lose. There are still some very sharp guys coming through, but the experience level is beginning to lack and there are a few that need much more ojt than Spirit line guys usually do. The flying that is done here is a bit more on your own and risky than at a mainline carrier that has special qualification airports or International vs domestic pilots. You are expected to do all of it. One day flying to LBE, CLE or LAX, the next flying to CTG, GUA red eyes and never have been there because one certifies you for all.
This place is cheap, a risk to your career daily with many gotchas. We take on risks here more than the legacy guys do. We should be compensated for that. It's pathetic now but will be fixed.
As far as my friends who bailed the company out yesterday, like you, I am very mission minded. I feel the need to sign in on time or early, complete a trip as safely and efficiently as possible and give our customers their $89 worth of service. I can tell you that the company has had time to prepare for the holidays and staffing, I feel bad for the customers and I certainly can understand and put myself in their shoes, but it is not my job to bail out this econo air operation because of their lack of planning. I was called 5 times Christmas Eve, never answered once. My time is better spent with my family when I have my time off. That is time I will never get back.
#530
Question for the list makers:
A pilot accepts move up pay to go in early for a trip that gets him back early enough to commute home and he is able to take his daughter out for breakfast on her birthday.
This next one happened to me: I was offered a JA for a three day, drop and pay protection for the 4 day I was supposed to fly, and it got me the weekend off and I was able to join my wife at her cousin's wedding. For the record it is the only JA I have done in my 3 years here.
Do these cases make you one of Bendo's minions? I personally don't think so. I think it is okay to accept some offers by crew scheduling under certain situations at this point in negotiations. I personally will not go above and beyond for only financial reasons at this point, but i will consider their proposals if it allows me to attend certain important family functions.
Thoughts?
A pilot accepts move up pay to go in early for a trip that gets him back early enough to commute home and he is able to take his daughter out for breakfast on her birthday.
This next one happened to me: I was offered a JA for a three day, drop and pay protection for the 4 day I was supposed to fly, and it got me the weekend off and I was able to join my wife at her cousin's wedding. For the record it is the only JA I have done in my 3 years here.
Do these cases make you one of Bendo's minions? I personally don't think so. I think it is okay to accept some offers by crew scheduling under certain situations at this point in negotiations. I personally will not go above and beyond for only financial reasons at this point, but i will consider their proposals if it allows me to attend certain important family functions.
Thoughts?
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