Doubling the MRJ order???
02-25-2018 | 03:22 AM
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Not if you are providing that feed yourself. You also might look at the total number of passengers fed to the mainline. If we allow aircraft with these capabilities they are no longer providing feed, they are replaning mainline lift. Thankfully mainline scope also contains restrictions on both distance and hub to hub flights.
I can assure you if Delta gets the ability to outsource the MRJ-90 we can kiss the 717’s goodbye when the leases are up.
I can assure you if Delta gets the ability to outsource the MRJ-90 we can kiss the 717’s goodbye when the leases are up.
The CS100 and 300 will replace the 717. The MRJ 70 and 90 would replace the CRJ700 and 900 along with the EMB 170 and
175.
If you could exchange Wt for number of MRJ’s. Seems like a compromise could be made.
Right now around 325 69-76 seaters. Why not try to reduce that number to around 200 Or so. I seriously doubt Mgt would
Go for it though.
02-25-2018 | 03:34 AM
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What is past is prologue. It has happened before and will likely happen again. The guys with the MBAs have been punking mainline pilot groups for years on scope. If management wants it bad enough, they will give mainline enough carrots to make it happen. Then you will be running around bragging we got xxx for scope.
02-25-2018 | 05:41 AM
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Way off l think.
The CS100 and 300 will replace the 717. The MRJ 70 and 90 would replace the CRJ700 and 900 along with the EMB 170 and
175.
If you could exchange Wt for number of MRJ’s. Seems like a compromise could be made.
Right now around 325 69-76 seaters. Why not try to reduce that number to around 200 Or so. I seriously doubt Mgt would
Go for it though.
The CS100 and 300 will replace the 717. The MRJ 70 and 90 would replace the CRJ700 and 900 along with the EMB 170 and
175.
If you could exchange Wt for number of MRJ’s. Seems like a compromise could be made.
Right now around 325 69-76 seaters. Why not try to reduce that number to around 200 Or so. I seriously doubt Mgt would
Go for it though.
02-25-2018 | 08:54 AM
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You must be kidding. Management has played you guys like a fiddle. As I said before, the aircraft are not available yet, even the 175v2 that’s for 2020. When they are you can bet management will get their way.
02-25-2018 | 09:00 AM
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Not if you are providing that feed yourself. You also might look at the total number of passengers fed to the mainline. If we allow aircraft with these capabilities they are no longer providing feed, they are replaning mainline lift. Thankfully mainline scope also contains restrictions on both distance and hub to hub flights.
I can assure you if Delta gets the ability to outsource the MRJ-90 we can kiss the 717’s goodbye when the leases are up.
I can assure you if Delta gets the ability to outsource the MRJ-90 we can kiss the 717’s goodbye when the leases are up.
02-26-2018 | 07:09 AM
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The MRJ is not a 717 replacement. It’s a ERJ/CRJ replacement. That’s what some here are trying to tell you. It’s makes more sense to reduce RJ feed by adding bigger RJs so there’s less total regional feed. There’s no chance Delta will take that in house. Mostly because it doesn’t make sense financially to take on this massive feed when the regional can do it for much less. Also good luck getting mainline guys to fly 4,5 legs a day again.
In your cost statement you make my point. At the cost it could be flown at the regionals the majors would not take on a 100 to 120 seat airframe. The CEO of UAL has said exactly that and backed it up by canceling their small aircraft order.
We fly 4 and 5 leg days now at Delta.
02-26-2018 | 07:13 AM
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I guess in answer to the other question you can’t provide a single example.
02-26-2018 | 12:54 PM
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What you fail to understand is we have lived the evolution of scope. The E175-2/MRJ absolutely would work as a 717 replacement. It’s close enough and actually has better range. It would not be a 175 replacement. Delta plans a 30 year life cycle on airframes. They are a long way from needing replacement.
In your cost statement you make my point. At the cost it could be flown at the regionals the majors would not take on a 100 to 120 seat airframe. The CEO of UAL has said exactly that and backed it up by canceling their small aircraft order.
We fly 4 and 5 leg days now at Delta.
In your cost statement you make my point. At the cost it could be flown at the regionals the majors would not take on a 100 to 120 seat airframe. The CEO of UAL has said exactly that and backed it up by canceling their small aircraft order.
We fly 4 and 5 leg days now at Delta.
02-26-2018 | 01:02 PM
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I guess you missed the entire scope debate in the last contract cycle. Airlines were planning on the E190 at the regionals and both the MRJ and E175-2 were supposed to be ready much early. Several regionals had the 190’s on order and every expert said the unions would cave and allow them. Did not happen. We won’t sell your future. You should be thankful!
I guess in answer to the other question you can’t provide a single example.
I guess in answer to the other question you can’t provide a single example.
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