sailingfun

They can do that. It’s a inefficient use of a airframe. Delta actually did this once before with the E170 configured at 69 seats.

Hot Richard

It is inefficient, but it is futureproofing in case scope does change some way down the line. Easier to slap six seats in than to buy new hulls. American have been removing seats from CRJ700s to get them to comply will "small RJ" on scope so they see some merit to operating them in slightly less efficient configurations if it allows them to stay on property.

The only way I see scope changing to allow more large RJs would be if small RJs were parked in their place (not 1-1 ratio), and also for JV scope improvements.

The ex-Comair 700s were 2002-04 vintage, and probably 20 year hulls, so they can stick around until early 2020s.

Purpleanga

Those aircraft do not compete with the MRJ or the 175E2. They're CRJ2/7/9 E145 replacements.The original point was you guys want regional flying in house. So why haven't you told your union that you would fly an RJ? Mainline guys do not want to fly regional jets. Again these planes are coming one way or another because current RJs are getting old and nobody wants to fly on them.

sailingfun

You again seem to think the union can decide to bring the flying in-house and that makes it happen. The shift to above 50 seat RJ’s was shoved down are throats when times where tough in the industry. The biggest migration occurred when the survival of the airline was in doubt. DALPA spent a lot of money attempting to show we could operate the E170/175 at the mainline. We tried to get those airframes at the mainline. The increase in weight to 86,000 lbs that allowed those airframes was one of the most controversial aspects of LOA46 in the chapter 11 process. In the end we lost the battle and hundreds of pilots were furloughed as a result. Times are very different today and I am extremely confident we can hold the line at not one more lb or one more seat. You should be cheering us along and hoping we succeed in that goal. It’s your future not mine!

Geardownflaps30

Only room for 10-12 more of those right now under DALPA scope rules. Too lazy to go look it up right now.

zondaracer

Delta scope:
125 50 seat aircraft
325 51-76 aircraft of which up to 223 can be 71-76 seats.
450 total regional aircraft

Once the Expressjet/ASA Delta flying winds down, Endeavor parks 16 CRJ200s and takes on the 31 Expressjet aircraft, and SkyWest takes on the E175SCs, scope for Delta will be maxed out.

Knobcrk1

I think from what I remember only Alaska can take on these MRJs. As it’s been mentioned Spirit and Frontier maybe although not sure how having RJs would be beneficial to them. It’s going to be interesting to see as I highly doubt you’re going to see these planes flown by Legacy pilots. United, Delta, and others I’m sure do not want to operate Regional jets, keeping in mind they account for almost half the domestic flying. I think we should all just be under one list, bring all the regionals together with their mainline pilots so we wouldn’t have anymore issues. But of course pilots are their own worst enemy.

MantisToboggan

Yeah I'm kind of confused on this one....

According to the all knowing wikipedia, Trans States Holdings has orders for 5 MRJ70s and 50 MRJ90s.... how is this possible with current scope agreements?

Purpleanga

Why would I be cheering with you to take my job? Are you going to hire me after?? I’m not one of those pretentious weirdos who pretend their regional time is just a formality while browsing the delta website day and night. I’m sure you really care about my future from up high in that delta cockpit. What you care about is getting rid of what pays the bills for me right now, not me. You guys make it over there pull the ladder underneath you, there’s so much hypocrisy.

sailingfun

So you plan on being a regional pilot for life? Keep in mind you will have a career always at the mercy of the next contract. No one is however trying to take your job. We are however going to hold the line at a migration of additional mainline flying being outsourced. It’s interesting on the one hand you claim we are trying to take your job and another poster right above you claims we dont want to fly those jets. That claim is off course utter BS. We would be happy to have the next generation of smaller jets at the mainline just as we were happy to have the DC-9’s seating the same.
TSA can fly all the MRJ-90’s they want. They just can’t do it while flying contract work for Delta. They agreed to that when they took on those contracts. I believe that AMR and UAL have the same provisions. If we allow that flying at the regionals we cap our future CS100 flying. We are not going to do that short of another chapter 11 filing which seems highly unlikely.