Doubling the MRJ order???
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The only way I see scope changing to allow more large RJs would be if small RJs were parked in their place (not 1-1 ratio), and also for JV scope improvements.
The ex-Comair 700s were 2002-04 vintage, and probably 20 year hulls, so they can stick around until early 2020s.
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We have worked out a deal for in-house. It’s called the CS100. We have also had a E190 payrate in our contract for years. You seemed confused however on aircraft purchases. Management buys aircraft not unions. Had we allowed the MRJ or other aircraft we would not have the 717 and soon CS100 on the property and several thousand pilots who have moved up to Delta would still be at the regionals.
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Those aircraft do not compete with the MRJ or the 175E2. They're CRJ2/7/9 E145 replacements.The original point was you guys want regional flying in house. So why haven't you told your union that you would fly an RJ? Mainline guys do not want to fly regional jets. Again these planes are coming one way or another because current RJs are getting old and nobody wants to fly on them.
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Those aircraft do not compete with the MRJ or the 175E2. They're CRJ2/7/9 E145 replacements.The original point was you guys want regional flying in house. So why haven't you told your union that you would fly an RJ? Mainline guys do not want to fly regional jets. Again these planes are coming one way or another because current RJs are getting old and nobody wants to fly on them.
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Delta scope:
125 50 seat aircraft
325 51-76 aircraft of which up to 223 can be 71-76 seats.
450 total regional aircraft
Once the Expressjet/ASA Delta flying winds down, Endeavor parks 16 CRJ200s and takes on the 31 Expressjet aircraft, and SkyWest takes on the E175SCs, scope for Delta will be maxed out.
125 50 seat aircraft
325 51-76 aircraft of which up to 223 can be 71-76 seats.
450 total regional aircraft
Once the Expressjet/ASA Delta flying winds down, Endeavor parks 16 CRJ200s and takes on the 31 Expressjet aircraft, and SkyWest takes on the E175SCs, scope for Delta will be maxed out.
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I think from what I remember only Alaska can take on these MRJs. As it’s been mentioned Spirit and Frontier maybe although not sure how having RJs would be beneficial to them. It’s going to be interesting to see as I highly doubt you’re going to see these planes flown by Legacy pilots. United, Delta, and others I’m sure do not want to operate Regional jets, keeping in mind they account for almost half the domestic flying. I think we should all just be under one list, bring all the regionals together with their mainline pilots so we wouldn’t have anymore issues. But of course pilots are their own worst enemy.
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I think from what I remember only Alaska can take on these MRJs. As it’s been mentioned Spirit and Frontier maybe although not sure how having RJs would be beneficial to them. It’s going to be interesting to see as I highly doubt you’re going to see these planes flown by Legacy pilots. United, Delta, and others I’m sure do not want to operate Regional jets, keeping in mind they account for almost half the domestic flying. I think we should all just be under one list, bring all the regionals together with their mainline pilots so we wouldn’t have anymore issues. But of course pilots are their own worst enemy.
According to the all knowing wikipedia, Trans States Holdings has orders for 5 MRJ70s and 50 MRJ90s.... how is this possible with current scope agreements?
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You again seem to think the union can decide to bring the flying in-house and that makes it happen. The shift to above 50 seat RJ’s was shoved down are throats when times where tough in the industry. The biggest migration occurred when the survival of the airline was in doubt. DALPA spent a lot of money attempting to show we could operate the E170/175 at the mainline. We tried to get those airframes at the mainline. The increase in weight to 86,000 lbs that allowed those airframes was one of the most controversial aspects of LOA46 in the chapter 11 process. In the end we lost the battle and hundreds of pilots were furloughed as a result. Times are very different today and I am extremely confident we can hold the line at not one more lb or one more seat. You should be cheering us along and hoping we succeed in that goal. It’s your future not mine!
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Why would I be cheering with you to take my job? Are you going to hire me after?? I’m not one of those pretentious weirdos who pretend their regional time is just a formality while browsing the delta website day and night. I’m sure you really care about my future from up high in that delta cockpit. What you care about is getting rid of what pays the bills for me right now, not me. You guys make it over there pull the ladder underneath you, there’s so much hypocrisy.
TSA can fly all the MRJ-90’s they want. They just can’t do it while flying contract work for Delta. They agreed to that when they took on those contracts. I believe that AMR and UAL have the same provisions. If we allow that flying at the regionals we cap our future CS100 flying. We are not going to do that short of another chapter 11 filing which seems highly unlikely.
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