They got rid of the 190s because they were flying them for Frontier and Midwest Express. Once Republic was no longer flying for Frontier there was no place else to put them so they got rid of them. It had nothing to do with mainline scope. They flew a few as Casino Charters but got rid of them once they decided to combine certificates.

 

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The real question in this entire thread is why any pilot at TSA would want the MRJ90 delivered and flown by TSA. The only plausible explanation is someone who is a lifer there due to skeletons in the closet. Pilots at TSA should be thrilled that mainline scope prevents this from happening.

 

I'm still doing research on the MRJ but it seems like an aircraft with some pretty advanced features. I am a new hire and I would be looking forward to it for that reason and I am not necessarily a lifer and I don't have a skeletons in my closet. Not saying you are necessarily wrong, just that there may be other plausible explanations.

 

Well if you want to work at a regional for many extra years bring advanced aircraft to those airlines and you will get your wish. You will have a much better career and earnings if those seats are at the mainline. Delta has hired over 4000 pilots the last 4 years because they made a decision to bring 100 seat flying to the mainline. UAL and AMR have hired a fraction of that number because they still hope for scope relief and keeping that flying at the regionals.

 

There’s not that many lifers at TSA, maybe 4 or 5 MRJs worth of coverage. I think the future looks pretty uncertain with tired old clapped out 145s on both AA and UA side with contracts that don’t have much time left. Maybe that’s why there’s rumors of TSA being sold or merged. I sincerely doubt we will see the MRJ, they’ll merge us before.

 

You need to straighten your Delta halo. Regional pilots have been dealing with the mess created by mainline guys caving on scope for years, starting with the weak Delta scope that allowed the 50 seat CRJs at Comair. Then everybody else had to cave on 50 seat scope because Deltas weak scope allowed the larger 70 seat CRJs. To the extent there are lifers here, its because your weak scope kept them from moving to mainline long ago. Its great that you are getting the flying back. Just make sure you don't cave again and screw us all when your management decides to put the screws to you.

We'd love to see more planes at mainline. Hell they should all be at mainline. You and your buddies at Delta let that cat out of the bag long ago when they created Delta Connection. Unfortunately long, bitter experience of seeing mainline pilots cave on scope for a few extra crumbs has many believing you will cave, yet again, when your management comes after the MRJs. We will be very happy to see you prove us wrong.

 

Your history of scope at Delta is heavily flawed. Nobody had scope for the most part in the eighties. Scope evolved with the development of small jets. We did not allow anything. Management upgraded the regionals and we tried to hold that line. You don’t always get what you want. Regardless it saved you from flying checks for 10 years all night long or single pilot cargo IFR at night for 8 bucks an hour until you had several thousand hours and could move on. Rode a jumpseat recently and the 23 year old copilot complained it’s going to take him two years to make CA. Times have changed and certainly not for the worst.
If you have lifers it’s not about scope. Unless they are over 55 they should be moving on. If not there is a reason.

 

Why would they move from their comfortable job driving to work with good days off so they can go be on reserve or even junior line holder or something in NY or wherever? There’s more to life than wearing a double breasted suit and thinking you’re the best. Nobody cares what you are.

 

So you're agreeing with him that they aren't lifers because of scope but by choice?