Originally Posted by FlyingKat

Well said. This is not my first job in this rat race either, and while there are some serious issues here, many that people gripe about are related to regionals in general, not just TSA. The biggest issues here are payroll and IOCC. Every regional has payroll and scheduling issues, but TSAs problems since IOCC exceed anything I have seen anywhere else, and IOCC is a disaster to put it mildly. The company does seem to be interested in fixing the issues but we will see. I don't blame junior FOs for bailing to the American WOs right now. What they are offering is very hard to say no to. However United and TSA are going to have to do something, the market demands it. Don't be surprised if they up the ante on American in the next six months. Will be interesting to see how they do it, but if an airline can't offer a package that includes support while working as a CFI to build time, retention bonuses, and some guaranteed path to a mainline career they are going to struggle to hire (and stay in business) because the market for pilots is going to demand it. Will be interesting to see how United and TSA do this, but they will have to do something. Amercian WOs may be the place to be now, but that will probably change in six months when United/Delta matches what American is doing and ups the ante.

Originally Posted by FlyingKat

Well said. This is not my first job in this rat race either, and while there are some serious issues here, many that people gripe about are related to regionals in general, not just TSA. The biggest issues here are payroll and IOCC. Every regional has payroll and scheduling issues, but TSAs problems since IOCC exceed anything I have seen anywhere else, and IOCC is a disaster to put it mildly. The company does seem to be interested in fixing the issues but we will see. I don't blame junior FOs for bailing to the American WOs right now. What they are offering is very hard to say no to. However United and TSA are going to have to do something, the market demands it. Don't be surprised if they up the ante on American in the next six months. Will be interesting to see how they do it, but if an airline can't offer a package that includes support while working as a CFI to build time, retention bonuses, and some guaranteed path to a mainline career they are going to struggle to hire (and stay in business) because the market for pilots is going to demand it. Will be interesting to see how United and TSA do this, but they will have to do something. Amercian WOs may be the place to be now, but that will probably change in six months when United/Delta matches what American is doing and ups the ante.

Originally Posted by Future Cpt Kirk

No reason for a junior FO to stay right now. Maybe if you're driving to work.... But get comfortable driving to an FO job. Because you will not upgrade. And you'll never be paid properly.

Originally Posted by papa

What happen is the company hasn't paid us right for over year and half (since I started) , now add to that the IOCC system totally sucks and everyone hating it from pilot group to payroll to scheduling and so on, there is no transparency about the pay you don't know how many hours you should get paid you can't check on that either unless you are smart you got FU**ED before you downloaded all your trips prior to flying them now add to that since November 24th till now we don't have open time we bid open time by emails and we see the open trips via a memo they should update twice a day and poorly written poorly constructed I wouldn't be surprised if tomorrow we started bidding by fax, and the reserve are getting screwed because there is no transparency there as well, and for those who are thinking to come here for quick upgrade it will not happen you are looking at 2-2 and half years and the money you don't need me to tell you that it's not comparable to PDT, PSA, ENY plus the pay issue.
The only thing going for Trans States is people who live in RDU and STL because even DEN is relatively senior and ORD is the same.
and that's my take on TSA, comes to me I would go to any other regional except mesa.

Originally Posted by Gjn290

Is this all because of the Lufthansa software? We're supposed to be implementing it in the coming months at Compass. Don't you have any contractual protections regarding electronic trip trading?

Originally Posted by Gjn290

Is this all because of the Lufthansa software? We're supposed to be implementing it in the coming months at Compass. Don't you have any contractual protections regarding electronic trip trading?

Originally Posted by Jatinsel

Can't you call a meeting with management whereby you voice your concerns? Is everybody there this disillusioned?

Originally Posted by Future Cpt Kirk

We voiced our concerns to management.... over and over and over. They don't care. At all. Middle management, I will admit, seems to want to put out the fire and rebuild the burned house. But upper management doesn't want that. FO and HK still think there are plenty of pilots out there for a dime a dozen that will work at TSA regardless of contract violations and a criminal payroll department.