Please tell me you're not an airline pilot. I haven't read through this whole thread, but I see you defending "right to work" legislation (talk about a misnomer). Others here have said it, but you refuse to accept reality. "Right to work" is about busting unions and lowering wages and worker protections. It has nothing to do with anyone's "right to work." It'll be a quick death for most unions since many of their rank and file are too short sighted to see what their union actually has done for them. Airline unions are different and combined with the internet and social media, not paying union dues will become the modern equivalent of being a scab. Nobody's going to talk to you and good luck getting landings if you're not a captain. However, as old guys like me retire and fewer pilots are around to educate others on the labor wars fought on their behalf, not paying union dues will be accepted, the airline unions will eventually die and the race to the bottom will accelerate like a fighter unloaded to zero G in full blower. Then everyone will wonder what happened when they're working harder for less with little job security. Then you'll see another class of pilot in the front end of the plane, because most of the people who would have become pilots in the past will do something better. College degree... who cares? Experience... who cares? Intelligence... who cares?

"Right to work" is just a cool sounding way to pull money out of workers pockets and put it in the wallets of the "investment class." Unfortunately, most don't understand that. If you're serious about your embrace of "right to work" legislation I suggest going into law, lobbying, management, finance, or anything other than being a commercial pilot, because being a pilot will be a rough road for you if it ever passes.

 

Just look at this person's posting history. NMuir is either a troll or is just a pilot that strongly disagrees with most of the basic facts and industry-accepted norms.

Either way, it isn't worth the effort trying to explain reality to this person since people like that are only happy when they ruffle feathers.

NMuir - Goodluck trying to get the majority of airline pilots to think they would be better off without a union.

 

What is this, groupthink communism? The majority should not get to decide for everyone. If your neighbors voted to take your land, does that make it right? Just because 51% of your coworkers want to have some of their salary stolen from them every month doesn't mean I should too.

 

And their wrong... unless you can cite where in the Constitution the federal government is given jurisprudence over labor?

 

No, it's about freedom of choice.

 

I never said people would be better off without a union, I happen to support them especially when it comes to matters of safety. But people should have a choice before money is stolen out of their paycheck each month.

 

You don't have to join. You do have to pay a contract maintenance fee though. It's slightly less than dues.

But, why should you profit from the pay rates and work rules earned by the Union without contributing?

 

The same can be said about all the workers who want to join a union but can't because a majority in their workplace doesn't want one. Majority rules, that's how we determine just about everything in our society.

 

We were all , as children, indoctrinated into a caste of slaves. Then the master allowed you to rise above others if you were better and/or harder working and you believed it. This ethic holds true right up till you get old, at this point you still have 25 working years ahead. This is where unions become the only thing that protects you. Never delude yourself into thinking that your 50Y/O ass making six figures adds value when there is a sea of guys half your age willing to work for half the price. My company recently replaced 40% of its most senior engineers with new grads. They started whittling away at retirement, benefits, and pay, the coup de grace was replacement with someone an old guy could no longer compete with. This made me realize how foolish I was in ever believing in conservative BS while I was punching a clock. If my grandfather was still around he would be saying "I told you so" because indeed he did.

 

Almost 60 posts and he still has not answered that one.