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06-25-2022, 06:03 PM
#91
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Joined APC: Aug 2008
Position: 787 Captain
Posts: 1,512
Originally Posted by TodKindrsChikun
Their goals or our goals. Seems like these guys are completely out of touch with us.
06-25-2022, 07:27 PM
#94
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Joined APC: Mar 2015
Posts: 963
Originally Posted by idlethrust
If this passes, UA pilots will be the laughing stock of the industry for years to come .
You have the co by the gonads , so don’t pull your shorts down and bend over for the next 3 years .
You have the co by the gonads , so don’t pull your shorts down and bend over for the next 3 years .
06-25-2022, 07:37 PM
#95
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Joined APC: May 2015
Position: 777 CA
Posts: 1,029
Originally Posted by fadec
The QOL giveaways will last until everyone here is retired.
2 automatic no goes for me
RSV loss of day 1 10am show. HUGE give
Basic Lineholder loss of 125% untriggered reassignment pay and now moved from Step 5 up to Step 2! With the TA you can show for your trip and be reassigned for something completely different before they even try to find a reserve or offer it to SRM. You have to actually read the TA to see that as well. The summary simply states loss of the 125%. But now your seniority means squat as they can simply pulled you off your awarded trip and give you something else for free (oh wait if you lose a long layover you get 1 hr add pay lol)
So QOL for both reserve and Lineholders just got slapped in the face right off the bat.
The rest of the gives just add to the misery.
06-25-2022, 08:14 PM
#97
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Joined APC: Nov 2009
Posts: 5,193
Originally Posted by idlethrust;[url=tel:3448208
3448208[/url]]If this passes, UA pilots will be the laughing stock of the industry for years to come .
You have the co by the gonads , so don’t pull your shorts down and bend over for the next3 10 years .
You have the co by the gonads , so don’t pull your shorts down and bend over for the next
06-26-2022, 05:06 AM
#99
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Joined APC: May 2022
Posts: 411
Originally Posted by FriendlyPilot
I don’t like it one bit. But given the current economic situation with a recession on the horizon, probably a long and deep one, getting anything is a win. People are saying that it barely beats inflation, but no pay raises is much worse with current inflation.
I’ll take the bird in the hand strictly based on the last 2 years economic condition of the company and the forward looking economic situation. Plus its only a 2 year deal so we restart negotiations hopefully right as the economy improves, Delta and American get some pay raises and the company has been profitable for a while.
Also getting something is a step and makes it easier to get our next step up, instead of trying to get it all in one shot in 3-4 years while having given up pay raises we would have had but turned down. 15% raises at the onset of an inflation for a company that has lost Billions in the last 2 years is something to think about.
I would like to vote no out of anger or spite, but it doesn’t gain us anything.
I’ll take the bird in the hand strictly based on the last 2 years economic condition of the company and the forward looking economic situation. Plus its only a 2 year deal so we restart negotiations hopefully right as the economy improves, Delta and American get some pay raises and the company has been profitable for a while.
Also getting something is a step and makes it easier to get our next step up, instead of trying to get it all in one shot in 3-4 years while having given up pay raises we would have had but turned down. 15% raises at the onset of an inflation for a company that has lost Billions in the last 2 years is something to think about.
I would like to vote no out of anger or spite, but it doesn’t gain us anything.
06-26-2022, 05:14 AM
#100
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Joined APC: May 2022
Posts: 411
Originally Posted by idlethrust
This is a pilots market right now . Take advantage of it while you can . Taking a dollar now might seem like I good idea , until you realize you could have held out and waited a little bit and got ten .
