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06-29-2022, 03:13 AM
#221
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Joined APC: Sep 2005
Posts: 463
Originally Posted by Noworkallplay
I respectfully disagree. Your CURRENT contract is not the best contract in the industry. I have a perspective from both a legacy and now FDX. Currently FDX is far superior in the following areas.
1. Retirement- Pension and DC plan
2. Pay- Hourly rates combined with work rules pay substantially more per day of work. Especially on international trips!
3. Pay- Almost entire career on WB pay
4. Vacation- 6 hours per day of vacation and hard line bidding makes for substantially better vacation in pay and days off with conflicting. You can expand and slide vacation and knock out substantially more than even the credit you have for vacation. Apples vs Oranges with a PBS vacation system.
5. Scheduling- Once again hardline bidding and the ability to conflict. Layer on top of that our numerous tools to trade/drop/swap and it is night and day compared to PBS
This is not meant as a you know what comparison but reality from someone who has seen a legacy and FDX. Truly hope you guys can get a great contract.
1. Retirement- Pension and DC plan
2. Pay- Hourly rates combined with work rules pay substantially more per day of work. Especially on international trips!
3. Pay- Almost entire career on WB pay
4. Vacation- 6 hours per day of vacation and hard line bidding makes for substantially better vacation in pay and days off with conflicting. You can expand and slide vacation and knock out substantially more than even the credit you have for vacation. Apples vs Oranges with a PBS vacation system.
5. Scheduling- Once again hardline bidding and the ability to conflict. Layer on top of that our numerous tools to trade/drop/swap and it is night and day compared to PBS
This is not meant as a you know what comparison but reality from someone who has seen a legacy and FDX. Truly hope you guys can get a great contract.
06-29-2022, 04:48 AM
#222
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Joined APC: Jun 2010
Position: DOWNGRADE COMPLETE: Thanks Gary. Thanks SWAPA.
Posts: 6,614
Originally Posted by iahflyr
Ok, why don’t you go to an airline that pays $500/hr?? Oh, there aren’t any… Why don’t you go to an airline that pays $400/hr? The only passenger airline I know would be United under this TA. But since you clearly don’t like us having industry leading pay rates, you ought to be good at your airline making $300/hr. Oh…. Southwest doesn’t even pay $300/hr???
Maybe you should spend some more time on your Southwest board and get the your Southwest pay rates closer to what you believe your responsibilities and contributions are worth. Report back when you get there. Until then, don’t let the door hit you in the @ss on the way out!
Maybe you should spend some more time on your Southwest board and get the your Southwest pay rates closer to what you believe your responsibilities and contributions are worth. Report back when you get there. Until then, don’t let the door hit you in the @ss on the way out!
06-29-2022, 05:28 AM
#224
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Joined APC: Mar 2005
Posts: 392
Originally Posted by FriendlyPilot
I don’t like it one bit. But given the current economic situation with a recession on the horizon, probably a long and deep one, getting anything is a win. People are saying that it barely beats inflation, but no pay raises is much worse with current inflation.
Pay rates aren’t my issue with this contract.
06-29-2022, 05:42 AM
#225
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Joined APC: Sep 2017
Posts: 149
Glad we got this poll going whoever started it. Will the MEC be recalled and the NC fired? The consensus seems overwhelming. I ask yet again, why was I never asked for my input? 3+ years on property. When will they solicit the entire pilot group for our priorities? Yes I'm sure it's not all UAL guys voting but it's something.
From my perspective the thought, planning and effort that went into the COVID LOA was vastly better and more logical than this TA.
From my perspective the thought, planning and effort that went into the COVID LOA was vastly better and more logical than this TA.
06-29-2022, 11:34 AM
#227
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Joined APC: Apr 2021
Posts: 58
Originally Posted by Jay1122
And United is superior in the following areas: Oh wait, those are all the areas.
Our “union” gets it right never.
I’m not demonizing United—not yet—but I absolutely will demonize the foul creatures who crafted this abomination.
Our “union” gets it right never.
I’m not demonizing United—not yet—but I absolutely will demonize the foul creatures who crafted this abomination.
Stop with the personal insults, it makes you look like a 13 year-old trying to pick a fight on the school playground. Grow up. You're responsible for a $1.6b asset when you push up the power - as stated elsewhere in this illustrious forum.
06-29-2022, 03:26 PM
#230
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Joined APC: Mar 2006
Position: guppy CA
Posts: 5,160
Originally Posted by Excargodog
What idiots are saying that? It comes nowhere near beating inflation.
And that is CPI, which significantly UNDERSTATES actual inflation. But anything LESS than CPI is friggin’ ridiculous in an era where the pilot shortage gives pilot groups more leverage than ever before.
And that is CPI, which significantly UNDERSTATES actual inflation. But anything LESS than CPI is friggin’ ridiculous in an era where the pilot shortage gives pilot groups more leverage than ever before.
